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re: Did Trump already back peddle on Obamacare and the wall?

Posted on 11/12/16 at 6:37 am to
Posted by 337Tigah
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Posted on 11/12/16 at 6:37 am to
Do you have any kind of sources for what you're saying? Because as of now, I'm chalking your words up to psycho babble.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 7:22 am to
FB also said Trump is literally Hitler; he's going to gas disabled people, lynch minorities and burn gays.

FB is today's church lady gossip group.

Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27955 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 4:52 pm to
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The pre existing mandate is the dumbest shite of the whole retarded debacle

probably agree with you, but since the entire nation is 'required' to have insurance, there really is not a person out there that would be disqualified due to a pre-existing condition at this point
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26983 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 4:56 pm to
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Reading on FB someone said...


And you're admiting it?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99019 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 4:59 pm to
No
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 11/12/16 at 5:01 pm to
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Reading on FB


Yeah but what are they sauing on myspace?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
47138 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 5:30 pm to
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Did Trump already back peddle on Obamacare and the wall?


Someone is pedaling you some bullshite.
This post was edited on 11/12/16 at 11:02 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35453 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 5:35 pm to
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Obamacare is a series of things. You can keep some, and toss some. It's not all or nothing. He could call the new thing Trumpcare
He could call it Obamacare Plus and not lose a single vote.
Posted by Reubaltaich
A nation under duress
Member since Jun 2006
4970 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 6:32 pm to
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Those 20 million people will..


You might want to check that number again. Its more like 11-13 million.

We know that the left has been fudging the actual numbers on obama-scam since day one.

People are signing up for it and then poof, they drop or don't make payments into it.

Plus, I think HALF of the people who enrolled on obama-scam are concentrated in California. California is not going to go GOP anyway.

Weak attempt.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20436 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 6:34 pm to
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Why is the left so mad about this when it is completely unaffordable?
Because the dont pay for anything.
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
4140 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 6:54 pm to
He hasn't been swore in yet even. Chill
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 7:27 pm to
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Wrong. It wont work. It can't work. The mechanisms involved are totally faulty. There are multiple books out now that describe in detail why it cannot work from both a practical economic perspective and social perspective. I recommend "The Primal prescription" by Dr. Doug Macguff and Robert P Murphy.


Switzerland disagrees with you.

quote:

Government involvement in our healthcare is the direct cause of its ridiculous and exorbitant price. In a market free of idiotic regulations, we would see better and far cheaper Healthcare than ever before. We should be so far ahead of where we are now, but instead its a stagnating market becoming accessible only to the relatively well to do. Thanks to 60 years of government intervention into what was a highly competitive market.


Nah, the wrong government involvement and the lack of its involvement in other areas is the problem.

Most expensive healthcare in the world. Only industrialized nation that doesn't cover everyone with comprehensive birth to death coverage.

These are facts you can't escape. And your party has offered no viable alternatives that any objective and well respected analysis group has concluded any of your all plans will achieve. Obamacare was the best you had, which would put us on the path to a Switzerland style system of care, and because of short term political expediency, your party decided they rather turn it into a toxic asset to win elections then make healthcare work for American people.
This post was edited on 11/12/16 at 7:37 pm
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 7:36 pm to
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You might want to check that number again. Its more like 11-13 million.

We know that the left has been fudging the actual numbers on obama-scam since day one.

People are signing up for it and then poof, they drop or don't make payments into it.

Plus, I think HALF of the people who enrolled on obama-scam are concentrated in California. California is not going to go GOP anyway.

Weak attempt.



Feel free to back you numbers up, I can with mine, can you?

quote:

CBO and JCT estimate that enacting H.R. 3762 would increase the number of people without health insurance coverage—relative to current-law projections—by about 22 million people in most years after 2017.



Posted by tagatose
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2005
2008 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 7:39 pm to
Don't want socialized medicine. Get that shite out of here.
Posted by bonhoeffer45
Member since Jul 2016
4367 posts
Posted on 11/12/16 at 7:46 pm to
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Don't want socialized medicine. Get that shite out of here.



So basically you are saying, I want a shitty healthcare system.

Where the elderly are near uninsurable unless you are ultra wealthy or near a very charitable doctor and people who can't show ability to pay can be left on the street to die.

Thankfully America has at least moved beyond this simple logic. Even your own party. Because they recognize simpleton logic like this is not tenable if you want to be a advanced society.
This post was edited on 11/12/16 at 7:47 pm
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