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Did Russia hack HRC and the DNC,

Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:31 pm
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:31 pm
Or did they just buy the information from a source like the deep web? Was the hack a result of HRC's non secure server or phone she was using?

She wasn't prosecuted, but I never hear the Russian issue tied back to that investigation...are they separate? I ask because if the information was was floating around the hacker circles and Russia went looking for it, that doesn't equal "hacking the election' to me. Did they use information from that incident to then hack into other sources of information?

Can someone please explain how the secret server and Russian hacking are separate?
Posted by TheTheTheTheThe
Member since May 2017
112 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:33 pm to
Russia didn't do anything
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:33 pm to
It is questionable whether the DNC server was hacked or if there was a leak in the DNC. If there was a hack, was it the Russians? Who knows?
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 7:35 pm
Posted by SouthernHog
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2016
6201 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:34 pm to
Russia didn't do anything, Hillary was just a shitty candidate.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:36 pm to
The Russia meme was created on 4chan. It's so funny it exploded this much.
Posted by DrunkerThanThou
Unfortunately Mississippi
Member since Feb 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:36 pm to
But I was told they "hacked" voting machines?!?
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23316 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:37 pm to
If Russia hacked the DNC, why not let the FBI inspect your servers?
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8382 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:44 pm to
quote:

Or did they just buy the information from a source like the deep web? Was the hack a result of HRC's non secure server or phone she was using?

She wasn't prosecuted, but I never hear the Russian issue tied back to that investigation...are they separate? I ask because if the information was was floating around the hacker circles and Russia went looking for it, that doesn't equal "hacking the election' to me. Did they use information from that incident to then hack into other sources of information?

Can someone please explain how the secret server and Russian hacking are separate?


There was no hack. It was an internal DNC leak. This is why the DNC did not allow the FBI to investigate their server.
Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
3702 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:51 pm to
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Russia didn't do anything


The funniest part of all of this is that even if Russia did absolutely nothing they are still reaping the benefits of a disrupted American political system.

The media and the left have created a bigger shitstorm than they could have imagined.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4440 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:51 pm to
Why didn't Sony let the FBI inspect their servers after they were hacked?

Because, like the DNC, they have competent legal counsel. No large organization should hand over the entirety of their server history to any investigatory governmental body. They have no idea if their employees were engaged in illegal behavior or other actions that open up liability.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8382 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:58 pm to
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Why didn't Sony let the FBI inspect their servers after they were hacked?

Because, like the DNC, they have competent legal counsel. No large organization should hand over the entirety of their server history to any investigatory governmental body. They have no idea if their employees were engaged in illegal behavior or other actions that open up liability.


Was Sony screaming through WaPo about Russia hacking? At every turn we hear Russian hacking. No, Sony handled it correctly and kept it close to the vest. The DNC, however, used every opportunity to inform us who hacked them - with no evidence - and then denied access to said server. Apples to oranges.
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1590 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 7:59 pm to
No
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9416 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 8:12 pm to


Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62453 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 8:15 pm to
But I was told they "hacked" voting machines?!?

I think that was the NSA, our spies, or at least they tried...
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40255 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 8:21 pm to
HIS NAME WAS SETH RICH!

Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31638 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 8:27 pm to
Link?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 8:29 pm to
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Russia didn't do anything
This. Don't listen to the those slimy deep-state pols and bureaucrats. Russia didn't and wouldn't do anything. They made that up on 4chan. Come to the p-board for the truth. These guys always play it straight.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
13860 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 8:30 pm to
www.4chan.org/pol/

Have fun and enjoy your red pill.
Posted by DuncanIdaho
Ouray, CO
Member since Feb 2013
14970 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 8:33 pm to
Russia did do something and she was a shitty candidate
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4440 posts
Posted on 5/18/17 at 8:53 pm to
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The DNC, however, used every opportunity to inform us who hacked them - with no evidence


There's enough evidence to convince 17 intelligence agencies that it was Russia. Plus several private firms and major European powers too

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and then denied access to said server


The DNC didn't deny access to their server history. They hired a third party to locate the parts of the server history relevant to the hacking and then turned that over to the FBI.

Organizations don't just turn over their entire server history to the FBI. That's an insane liability risk. Sorry it bursts y'all's conspiracy bubble but that's what happens in the real world.

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