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Democrats' urban machine

Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:02 pm
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:02 pm
How have the democrats been so successful in establishing their 'machine' in so many (most) American cities?

Do the Republicans have anything similar?
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 2:05 pm
Posted by tiger7166
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2007
2620 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:04 pm to
Hate speech disguised as civil rights
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9316 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:05 pm to
Look at the clientele of the urban areas.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:05 pm to
And their old standby of buying votes with other people's money
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:32 pm to
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How have the democrats been so successful in establishing their 'machine' in so many (most) American cities?


I imagine its a lot like the conservative machine in rural counties.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89552 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:32 pm to
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I imagine its a lot like the conservative machine in rural counties.


Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16989 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:35 pm to
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Do the Republicans have anything similar?


Yes. Rural America especially in the south.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9316 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:36 pm to
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I imagine its a lot like the conservative machine in rural counties.


I'm still waiting on a bus to show up and take me to the polls where, after I pull the lever for the GOP, a handler gives me a carton of cigarettes.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:53 pm to
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I'm still waiting on a bus to show up and take me to the polls where, after I pull the lever for the GOP, a handler gives me a carton of cigarettes.


Or a fried chicken lunch...
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:56 pm to
Urban areas typically draw people from many different backgrounds. I think being around people from different backgrounds everyday, generally makes people a little more liberal. Even Republicans in urban areas are generally more liberal than rural republicans.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69312 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:57 pm to
It's been that way for 200 years
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112499 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:25 pm to
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Yes. Rural America especially in the south.


This is true. I live in rural America. We meet once a month. We organize our plan to elect right wing fascists. It goes like this:

Gertrude: "So, who's running for city council?"
Zach: "We can't vote. We're not in a city."
Stan: "That's not fair. We should protest."
Zach: "How"
Bill: "Let's let all of our dogs run loose until a liberal hits one and then we kill the bastard."
George: "That won't work. Our dogs already run loose and they're too smart to get hit."

It's very sad.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:28 pm to
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How have the democrats been so successful in establishing their 'machine' in so many (most) American cities?


It's pretty simply black voters. Blacks vote democrat at like a 85-90% clip and outside of the south are mostly concentrated in urban areas.

Also 75-80% of big cities have a well regarded University which leads to more liberal/democrat voters.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118853 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:33 pm to
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Do the Republicans have anything similar?


The rural and suburban machine.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:34 pm to
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It's pretty simply black voters.



Pretty telling you equate "urban" voters with black voters.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118853 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:38 pm to
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It's been that way for 200 years



Rural and most of suburbia are federal government minimalists. They don't need nor want much of it...maybe some interstate highways and defense. However urban America are federal government gluttons.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:46 pm to
Black voters have a much larger proportion of the vote in urban areas than they do in rural areas (except in the deep south).

Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 4/24/17 at 3:47 pm to
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Rural and most of suburbia are federal government minimalists. They don't need nor want much of it...maybe some interstate highways and defense. However urban America are federal government gluttons.


USDA subsidies?

Plus you have to factor in that it costs a lot more per capita to build a bridge that sees 100 cars per hour (rural) than a bridge that sees 10,000 cars per hour (urban) if those bridges are being funded primarily through gas taxes, for instance.

Also there are a lot of rural areas that are very poor with high concentrations of SNAP, Medicaid, etc. Regardless of stereotypes, the rural areas in this country still rely on lots and lots of federal funding.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 3:50 pm
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