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re: Democrats are picking the wrong battle by going nuts over DeVos
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:33 am to buckeye_vol
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:33 am to buckeye_vol
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I believe NCLB is/was an unfunded mandate.
So we paid for it with debt? Sounds like most Republican policies.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:34 am to BamaAtl
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She's a perfect example for how donating to Republicans can make them ignore your lack of qualifications for a Cabinet-level position.
Did you vote for Hillary?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:35 am to GetCocky11
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Trump doesn't get a limited number of VP tie-breakers, so I'm not sure what the big deal is about using a VP tie-breaker.
Political capital is not endless, even (especially) for Trump.
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she isn't going to destroy public education in this country because she simply doesn't have the power to destroy public education in this country.
If she's successful in her push to block-grant funding for charter schools, she'll have destroyed public education in this country.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:35 am to BamaAtl
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NCLB. Head Start. Federal money goes toward the public education of children. Whoever's in charge of that money has some say, no matter how small, in allocating it or planning for the future.
You are showing a complete lack of knowledge about education funding.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:36 am to BamaAtl
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If she's successful in her push to block-grant funding for charter schools, she'll have destroyed public education in this country.
I don't think block-grant funding will be a priority for Trump and this Congress any time soon.
She can't unilaterally do it.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:36 am to imjustafatkid
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:37 am to BamaAtl
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If she's successful in her push to block-grant funding for charter schools, she'll have destroyed public education in this country.
The only school systems that would be affected by this have already destroyed themselves. Birmingham City Schools, who I used to work for in their finance department, is a great example.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:38 am to BamaAtl
quote:Lyndon B Johnson was a Republican?
So we paid for it with debt? Sounds like most Republican policies.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:39 am to GetCocky11
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I don't think block-grant funding will be a priority for Trump and this Congress any time soon.
I'm not sure anyone can confidently say what will be a priority for Trump - he changes his mind based on what he sees on the shows, nearly daily.
But back to your original point, it was a great fight for Democrats to pick. It was a great fight to pick before we got 2 defections and forced the tie-breaker. It turned what would have been a relatively unremarkable pick into national news and a spotlight on how unqualified she was.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:39 am to buckeye_vol
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Lyndon B Johnson was a Republican?
GWB was, or are you disavowing him now?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:40 am to BamaAtl
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Maybe you should do your homework next time
I am a CPA with years of experience working in school finance in a system that heavily relied on federal funding. Most of that funding went to the free lunch program. You are out of your league, and not worth my time.
Your link shows you don't even understand percentages. That just says federal spending increased. I can tell you, with first hand experience, that even with increased spending federal education funding is not even close to the highest funding for education spending in even the poorest districts.
ETA: I should clarify that I mean for education activities. If you add in the lunch program (and dinner...), federal spending is likely fairly high in poorer districts. That's not in any danger of going anywhere, so I don't feel like it has a place in this discussion.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 7:51 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:40 am to BamaAtl
quote:No. But what does GWB have to do with a law from the 1960s?
GWB was, or are you disavowing him now?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:42 am to GetCocky11
They're just acting at the behest of the teachers' unions...
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:43 am to BamaAtl
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She's a perfect example for how donating to Republicans can make them ignore your lack of qualifications for a Cabinet-level position. And we get to couch it in the language of educating children?
What do you know about teaching kids? I bet you couldn't last one day teaching public school if you could even pass the praxis at all
Devos is a teacher and her mother is a teacher, that makes her qualified x 2
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:44 am to BamaAtl
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And Republicans showed the entire country that they're unconcerned with quality education, so long as you donate enough money to their campaigns.
This statement alone discredits anything else you might say. Do you honestly believe the Dems are concerned with quality education after seeing their unquestioning support of teacher's union policies and one failing school after another?
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:51 am to imjustafatkid
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The only school systems that would be affected by this have already destroyed themselves
Well the problem with this statement is that it is completely untrue. I have no problem with private schools, but charter school are promoted through laws which force the local public school boards, involuntary, to divert our tax dollars to private education companies, who then put the profit in their pockets. This drives any affected school district, successful or not, into deficits. And there isn't a damn thing the local voters or taxpayers can do about it. It is robbery of our local tax dollars. It is the opposite of local control over taxes and education.
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:51 am to el Gaucho
quote:This appears to be false.
Devos is a teacher
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:52 am to TBoy
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Well the problem with this statement is that it is completely untrue. I have no problem with private schools, but charter school are promoted through laws which force the local public school boards, involuntary, to divert our tax dollars to private education companies, who then put the profit in their pockets. This drives any affected school district, successful or not, into deficits. And there isn't a damn thing the local voters or taxpayers can do about it. It is robbery of our local tax dollars. It is the opposite of local control over taxes and education.
It diverts the money the schools would have received for the specific child in question to the school of their choice. Since the system is no longer educating that child, they are not actually losing anything.
ETA: The charter schools bill here in Alabama does not require local funding to act in this way. It only relates to state and federal funds. Maybe other states are different.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 7:54 am
Posted on 2/8/17 at 8:02 am to imjustafatkid
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I am a CPA with years of experience working in school finance in a system that heavily relied on federal funding. Most of that funding went to the free lunch program. You are out of your league, and not worth my time.
Yeah, I think the money mostly goes to Pell Grants, then Title I programs, then Special Ed?
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