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re: Democrats are out of touch with America
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:13 pm to ballscaster
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:13 pm to ballscaster
1100 Dem seats gone since Obama's first term would say otherwise.
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:17 pm to Cruiserhog
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The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
Clearly Trump had evolved on the issue. Lol
Also, a little FYI, we are a republic so you know technically Trump is correct.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:18 pm to Cruiserhog
quote:He's absolutely correct.
The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy.
The electoral college is indeed bad for a Democracy. Since we are a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy, the electoral college is just fine.
ETA: Robin Masters beat me to it
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:19 pm to DerkaDerka
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For a national democracy, yes the electoral college is no bueno. For a republic like we are supposed to have the electoral college is precisely what is needed.
Fine, we'll just get rid of the winner-take-all thing and apportion the votes from each state. Still representative democracy and problem solved. You're welcome.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:20 pm to ballscaster
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They're more in touch with America than the Republicans are, and the voting tally confirms that.
No, it doesn't.
You had a candidate that touted decades of preparation and experience, had every media outlet shilling for her, outspent Trump by huge margins, was the "anointed one" from day 1, had her own party railroad the nomination, and her opponent's party disown him, and she still lost. SHE did get more votes, but take away California, and she doesn't.
On the other hand, the vast majority of state legislatures and governors are Republicans. Both houses of Congress are Republican controlled. Most states voted Republican.
Your statement simply reinforces the idea that Dems are out of touch.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:20 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
He's absolutely correct.
The electoral college is indeed bad for a Democracy. Since we are a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy, the electoral college is just fine.
ETA: Robin Masters beat me to it
So we elected a President that thinks we're a Democracy rather than a Constitutional Republic?
Uh oh.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:23 pm to cahoots
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Fine, we'll just get rid of the winner-take-all thing and apportion the votes from each state. Still representative democracy and problem solved. You're welcome.
good luck with that.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:23 pm to cahoots
I'm sure his understanding has evolved a bit since running for President. Even if not, he's not Hillary so I don't care.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:23 pm to Ag Zwin
quote:...meaning more people wanted her as President. So to say that they're the ones who are out of touch is flawed.
SHE did get more votes
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:26 pm to FooManChoo
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I'm sure his understanding has evolved a bit since running for President. Even if not, he's not Hillary so I don't care.
So he figured it out some time between November 2012 and last month?
Phew. Good thing.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:26 pm to ballscaster
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...meaning more people wanted her as President. So to say that they're the ones who are out of touch is flawed.
They are out of touch with the metrics needed in order to win an election.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:27 pm to cahoots
Yep, good thing. Glad you agree.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:28 pm to cahoots
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So we elected a President that thinks we're a Democracy rather than a Constitutional Republic?
Yes. That should tell you just how bad Hillary was. Thanks Dems!
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:30 pm to cahoots
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Fine, we'll just get rid of the winner-take-all thing and apportion the votes from each state.
And again, in a republic the states get to decide how to go about assigning their representation in the electoral college.
quote:
Still representative democracy and problem solved. You're welcome
Again, republic not a democracy on the national level. In this regard anyway.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:33 pm to DerkaDerka
As for the OP, Dems may be "out of touch" with America, but Hillary Clinton, the weakest Democratic nominee since 1984, garnered 2.5+ million more votes of Americans than Trump.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:37 pm to GeorgeWest
quote:Perhaps, but the Dem Party has bled out the last eight years, I thought the Senate was nearly a lock to go D this year?
the weakest Democratic nominee since 1984, garnered 2.5+ million more votes of Americans than Trump.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:37 pm to Robin Masters
quote:Now that's more like it.
They are out of touch with the metrics needed in order to win an election.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:37 pm to GeorgeWest
Almost her entire PV lead was in California. How "in touch" are those people in LA?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:38 pm to GeorgeWest
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As for the OP, Dems may be "out of touch" with America, but Hillary Clinton, the weakest Democratic nominee since 1984, garnered 2.5+ million more votes of Americans than Trump.
And still lost. That's pretty pathetic. Why would we want someone so incapable of closing to be our president?
If I was a dem I would, out of self respect, never repeat this fact again.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:39 pm to hsfolk
They have been for many years
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