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Democrats are missing the point

Posted on 6/10/23 at 2:42 pm
Posted by guy4lsu
shreveport
Member since Aug 2004
2867 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 2:42 pm
The problem isn’t whether or not the documents are technically classified or not classified. You can’t selectively apply the law to Trump and then let everyone else walk Scott free.
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 2:44 pm
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98683 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 2:43 pm to
Lololololololol

Sweet summer child
Posted by guy4lsu
shreveport
Member since Aug 2004
2867 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 2:45 pm to
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Lololololololol Sweet summer child


Kindly explain why VP Biden had classified documents at a University he wasn’t cleared to take. Why wasn’t he prosecuted?
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7714 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 2:56 pm to
I disagree. YOU are missing the point. We have had a two tiered justice system for quite a while now, and you still do not see and understand this? They are shoving it in our face and down our throats every day. No one is above the law??? Oh yes indeed, there are LOTS of people "above the law", and most of them are Democrats.
Posted by guy4lsu
shreveport
Member since Aug 2004
2867 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 2:57 pm to
Also, why is it ok for members of the deep state in a previous administration to try and take out a candidate that was elected by the voters. Biden was given the chance to govern as was Obama and every other president before them. The deep-state tried to take out Trump even before he took office by making up fake information and using campaign money to do it.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22796 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:04 pm to
What I think is funny is that all these politicians got rich selling their influence. We know they are corrupt as they wouldn’t be insanely wealthy otherwise. They are now trying to pin items on him like he is actually one of them.
Posted by Marcus Aurelius
LA
Member since Oct 2020
3900 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:05 pm to
It's not "Democrats" per se, it is the Radical Left that has taken over the DEM party.

Hillary should have been indicted. Trump appears to have broken the law and therefore should probably have been indicted. There is likely already enough info for Biden and his family syndicate to be indicted. If they broke the law, I'm good with it. But, I am not good with one and not the others. It is clear there has been bias and corruption in the ranks of DOJ, FBI and IRS.

Don't agree that whether it is classified or not does not matter. NONE of them should have anything other than personal documents, or ones signed off on by Nat Archives.
Posted by LSUBrian
Member since Aug 2009
118 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:14 pm to
If what Biden, Pence, and others did with classified documents are similar to what Trump did then they all deserve equal treatment. It does seem that his transgressions were more egregious though.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7714 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:18 pm to
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It does seem that his transgressions were more egregious though.




??? How do you figure that? What transgressions? Please be specific. (I assume you are referring to Trump?)
Posted by guy4lsu
shreveport
Member since Aug 2004
2867 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:21 pm to
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If what Biden, Pence, and others did with classified documents are similar to what Trump did then they all deserve equal treatment. It does seem that his transgressions were more egregious though.



Is having a piece of paper worse than selling weapons to another country and taking millions in kickbacks via shell companies? The current president is selling US technology and arms in order to personally profit. The DOJ is currently holding that information which is unclassified from being seen by the American people.
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 3:24 pm
Posted by LSUBrian
Member since Aug 2009
118 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:23 pm to
Trump has said that he can declassify documents by merely thinking them declassified. If anyone is doing this they need to be stopped.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
15800 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:24 pm to
I'm sure once they realize their mistake, all will be corrected and everything will be fine.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7714 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:26 pm to
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Trump has said that he can declassify documents by merely thinking them declassified. If anyone is doing this they need to be stopped.


Whom does he have to tell? There is no constitutional process or legally mandated process for the PRESIDENT to declassify. For everyone else, there IS a mandated process.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12897 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:39 pm to
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If what Biden, Pence, and others did with classified documents are similar to what Trump did then they all deserve equal treatment


Biden secreted documents had had no legal right to take for nearly 8 years.

It’s either against the law to take classified documents or it’s not. You can’t claim that “no one is above the law” then make rationalizations for why some people are in fact, above the law.
Posted by LSUBrian
Member since Aug 2009
118 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:39 pm to
If there is no legal process for a president to go through to declassify documents then there surely should be one. Giving one man the power to declassify on his own is a bad idea in my opinion.
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 3:50 pm
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21280 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:41 pm to
It’s the TYPE of documents and what he has as doing with them.
Oh and the whole obstruction angle
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12897 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:45 pm to
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It’s the TYPE of documents and what he has as doing with them. Oh and the whole obstruction angle


Classified is classified. It’s supposedly illegal to take classified documents. Biden took classified documents, with absolutely no legal justification to do so, and secreted them at multiple locations for years.

If your insistence is that Trump should be prosecuted for what’s being alleged then you should also be insisting that Biden be prosecuted.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7714 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

It’s the TYPE of documents and what he has as doing with them.


The problem with your argument here is that the President can declassify ANYTHING at his own discretion. He is not required by the Constitution or any law to have permission from anyone or any agency. No one else has this kind of authority.
Posted by LSUBrian
Member since Aug 2009
118 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

It’s either against the law to take classified documents or it’s not. You can’t claim that “no one is above the law” then make rationalizations for why some people are in fact, above the law.


Agreed.
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