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re: Cruz Found an Overlooked 1974 Rule; Could Be a Real Game-changer for ObamaCare
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:32 am to cajunangelle
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:32 am to cajunangelle
Don't see how saying "reconciliation now applies to everything" is functionally different from just going nuclear and ending the filibuster outright.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:33 am to cajunangelle
Frick it, Ted has my vote in 2024
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:37 am to Iosh
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Don't see how saying "reconciliation now applies to everything" is functionally different from just going nuclear and ending the filibuster outright.
if that power is taken out of mccuckells hands and put into pences, well
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:41 am to cajunangelle
The Cucks melt over this should be interesting.
Now McCuckell and Cuck Ryan have no excuses.
Now McCuckell and Cuck Ryan have no excuses.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:42 am to CoachChappy
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Leave it to Ted Cruz to find some crazy, old, hidden away law.
This type of stuff is his strong point
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:43 am to ChineseBandit58
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They just need to repeal the ACA and then set about creating a robust "Charity Hospital System" to trrindigent people with real maladies. Forget the "designer' processes like elective abortion and sex-change crap. Otherwise pay for what you want = insure yourself or rely on Charity Hospital.
Totally agree. Medicare/Medicade and healthcare for people who otherwise can't afford it should be covered by charities. They'd do a better job than the gov't would.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:44 am to Aubie Spr96
Can someone please explain the rule he found in stupid terms? It is 1 week until Spring Break and my brain is not working well, as if it ever has.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:45 am to Aubie Spr96
Absolutely. You could do this and cut Medicare/Medicaid spending by 50%. Offer medical students 70% reduction/payment for medical school in exchange for 7 year post graduation commitment to work in system.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:51 am to cajunangelle
Doesn't matter- anything to do with the Medicaid Expansion that's conservative enough to appeal to Cruz and Lee will cost the votes of Collins, Murkowski, Portman and Capito.
frick 60, the Medicaid Expansion kills efforts to hit 50 votes.
frick 60, the Medicaid Expansion kills efforts to hit 50 votes.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:51 am to Zephyrius
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the Dems have been so partisan
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:52 am to cokebottleag
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As nice of a 'one weird trick' this is for Lion Ted Cruz, this is exactly the kind of thing that shouldn't get dug up, because in 8 years, the DNC will be doing the same thing when the pendulum swings back.
frick it. Time for the GOP to grow a pair if we are ever to get our agenda through. I'm tired of playing nice...all that's gotten us is a steady trickle toward big Govt and leftist policy.
Do it, and hope it creates enough positive change where it becomes politically toxic for Dems to mess with it
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:52 am to Zephyrius
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McConnell has been pretty supportive of Trump so far... If Cruz invokes that rule that will be a game changer. I can imagine McConnell would not be pleased and would be curious to see how the Senate "gang" try to weasel out of it.
frick McConnell. Let that bitch show is arse here. We might finally get rid of him if he does.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:56 am to cokebottleag
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this is exactly the kind of thing that shouldn't get dug up, because in 8 years, the DNC will be doing the same thing when the pendulum swings back.
This is the kind of thinking that the GOP can't have. The dems have already proven that they can and will use these type of tactics when they are in power. Heck, the dems were ready to use this rule back when obamacare was first pushed through, and let's not for get that it was Reid that implemented the nuclear option. So the GOP can't worry about what the dems will do once they get into office, because they have proven that they will do it regardless. So why should the GOP handcuff themselves when the dems aren't?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:06 pm to sms151t
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Can someone please explain the rule he found in stupid terms? It is 1 week until Spring Break and my brain is not working well, as if it ever has.
I will try...
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These special rules hinge on what is known as “reconciliation,” a process which allows legislation that affects the budget but has a limited scope to be passed with only a simple Senate majority, leaving such bills immune to filibuster.
Traditionally, it has fallen to the parliamentarian — who advises the Senate “on the interpretation of its rules and procedures” — to determine what should and should not be considered a reconciliation bill.
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According to Cruz, however, a provision in the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 would allow Republicans to both drastically increase the scope of their new health care reform bill and still let it fall under reconciliation by essentially bypassing the parliamentarian and leaving that decision up to Vice President Pence.
IOWs Ram the bill through the Senate, bypass the Parliamentarian by either ignoring him as Harry Reid did or replace him like they did in the seventies.
LINK
They won't ignore the parliamentarian like dems did to pass ObamaCare in the middle of the night.
They will replace the parliamentarian with Pence.
Don't feel bad. I think all of this crap is meant to be convoluted so they can do what they want and make us think they are important because they know this convoluted crap.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:09 pm to ChineseBandit58
You couldn't be more right. I believe true the truly indigent should be humanely treated and provided health care. The rest of able bodied America-get out there and pay for your health care and find places that are reasonable and have health insurance. I went from being a single mom who truly figured it out on my own as I always made just a bit more than qualified for any help. I could have quit my job though and actually lived better back then. That is messed up. But I chose the right path. Worked my arse off despite physically incurable illness in both myself and my child I now have college and home ownership to my name. The American dream is out there even for those who don't have it easy if you will put your nose to the grindstone and just do it. I had no family support or anything. I just said I want a better life and I wasn't about to quit pushing and decide to live on handouts and disability which I qualify for. I can knock lazy people because I know what it's like to get up in pain every day and still make it happen. If all Americans had a work ethic and contacted our congressmen and women to voice our views instead of sticking heads on sand and hoping for the best then maybe we could get real change for the people by the people. THose with the loudest voices get heard. And often those voices don't speak for the majority of citizens. Speak up. And get busy America!!!! Luv from the Real Mum!!!
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:12 pm to Mum For Realness
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Mum For Realness
Greatest 1st post ever!!!!
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:13 pm to Mum For Realness
Hi mum, you really love me?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:15 pm to Mum For Realness
Are you Sir Winstons mum?
Welcome.
I may make a spot of tea right now, the weather outside is frightening!
Welcome.
I may make a spot of tea right now, the weather outside is frightening!
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:42 pm to cajunangelle
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According to Cruz, however, a provision in the Congressional Budget Act of 1974 would allow Republicans to both drastically increase the scope of their new health care reform bill and still let it fall under reconciliation by essentially bypassing the parliamentarian and leaving that decision up to Vice President Pence.
So does this apply to line items in the New-ACA or is this only a budgetary constraint/provision ?
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