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re: Confession of a 47%er
Posted on 4/18/14 at 6:46 am to NATidefan
Posted on 4/18/14 at 6:46 am to NATidefan
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Yes... I think so.. but it's hard to determine how much you deserve. And if you were in combat and saw others die who were on your level, and then you turn around and receive benefits while your dead partner's wife receives less or the same it would be very difficult to deal with IMO, and not right at all.
Also, I'M REALLY SORRY if this sounds cold hearted.. I rephrased it about 5 times cause more sympathetic ones didn't make sense or were confusing, also it's just very difficult for someone to see someone die and then take money for their trama about the person dieing while feeling guilt about the one that died.
Wait a second... Do you think I'm shacked up with some late buddies wife? lol, my wife has va benefits because she's a vet, not because she's a widow. Holy shite. did you think that?
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Posted on 4/18/14 at 7:16 am to northshorebamaman
If that was the deal, that was the deal. Good for you.
It always boggles my mind how peoople suggest you're somehow "undeserving" in a situation like this. They had the same chances to sign up as you.
It always boggles my mind how peoople suggest you're somehow "undeserving" in a situation like this. They had the same chances to sign up as you.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 7:17 am to C
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military disability is a broken system like many govt system. The govt tries it's damnedest to get people on their dole and that sickens me. I didn't take the money because I didn't need it and don't think I deserved it.
True.
Amen.
Last time I returned from the sand box ... that VA guy badgered me for about an hour.
My feeling was ... "Dude ... look at me ... I have all my arms and legs, fingers and toes ... I am not blown to high hell ... I ain't psycho ... I like to drink, but I was that way before all this shite went down ... so, I just want to go home now and see my family... give the money to somebody who deserves it....I will work and provide for myself and my loved ones."
Posted on 4/18/14 at 7:26 am to navy
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....I will work and provide for myself and my loved ones
Kudos. Thanks for saving us some money. However, if you ever do decide you need it, no apologies would be necessary.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 7:27 am to northshorebamaman
So BOTH of you are on SSDI and early retirement?
WTF? And BOTH are on the GI bill?
What % is from each if that is the case?
Were you injured in combat service?
WTF? And BOTH are on the GI bill?
What % is from each if that is the case?
Were you injured in combat service?
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:11 am to northshorebamaman
My household pays a lot of taxes annually. I don't mind my $$$ going to injured vets. Not one bit.
Thank you for your service.
Thank you for your service.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:13 am to northshorebamaman
I think it's too much money.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:14 am to Tigerlaff
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I think it's too much money.
Why don't you enlist then? You have the same opportunities as he does.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:14 am to northshorebamaman
Obviously don't know anyone's specific situation. At least you're trying to be honest with yourself. I would never give back or refuse the money if I felt I was undeserving. I would just use it to help others. I think you have a better chance at putting that money to use in a positive way for veterans than the government does. If it went back to them, there's a chance it would go to an even "less" deserving person. Use it how you see fit, even if that is on yourself, sounds like you have a good conscience . 
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:20 am to northshorebamaman
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quit being a bitch?
Yes. And I know its tough. I know you have to walk out of movie theaters, can't cope with certain situations, or just need to stop and take a moment to regain composure. But people have these traumatic events in all walks of life that affect them whether they are in the military or not. Instead of telling them to get on with life we are basically telling them it's ok and heck its probably better if you didn't cope with this so you can continue to get a check every month. I know that's very blunt. And I know it might seem like I don't care but I truly do. I hurt for those that suffered and the families of those that never returned.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:20 am to a want
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Why don't you enlist then? You have the same opportunities as he does.
I'm not on the "anything for veterans" bandwagon. I appreciate the guy's service and believe he is entitled to benefits, but I still think it's a silly amount of money to be doled out. To be fair, I don't know what his injuries are and did not read the entire thread.
This post was edited on 4/18/14 at 8:22 am
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:22 am to a want
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You have the same opportunities as he does.
I think the OP would rather not be in a situation where he was receiving disability.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:26 am to northshorebamaman
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This is through a combination of disability, retirement pension, a couple VA programs, and the GI Bill.
So do you work for that 90k, or are you getting 90k through pensions, disability, etc...
Also, does your disability prevent you from being able to work? Is your wife also disabled? A lot of questions are out there in order to form an honest opinion.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:43 am to DR Hops
My fiancé's dad exhibits every ailment tied to Agent Orange exposure (tanker in Vietnam) and he gets absolute hell trying to get them to acknowledge this was related to military service.
Very hard to imagine the treatment of Vets in Vietnam era, he sees people clapping for Vets at airports and still can't believe they aren't being spit on and called baby killers.
Very hard to imagine the treatment of Vets in Vietnam era, he sees people clapping for Vets at airports and still can't believe they aren't being spit on and called baby killers.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:47 am to northshorebamaman
It's really not about the morality, NS...or even "what the average taxpayer thinks". It's more about SUSTAINIBILITY, and the truth of Numbers, and the inevitable collapse/reboot ("fundamental transformation") of the current economic system.
Enjoy it while it last. You can book that the collapse/'reboot' won't be nearly as easy or generous.
Thanks. Be well.
Enjoy it while it last. You can book that the collapse/'reboot' won't be nearly as easy or generous.
Thanks. Be well.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:47 am to northshorebamaman
I have no problem with my money going to any vet in this country. I didnt make that sacrifice for other Americans children and have no problem supporting those that did for my children.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:47 am to C
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I think the OP would rather not be in a situation where he was receiving disability.
I'm sure that's true, but a deal is a deal.
If you sign up, you get a,b,c. If something happens to you, you get d,e,f. What is wrong with accepting to what you've agreed to.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:50 am to a want
quote:Just because the govt is giving out money, doesn't mean we should take it. This will collapse our system. The govt has done a poor job of catching fraud in the past. Now its basically encouraging it. (not directed at the OP)
What is wrong with accepting to what you've agreed to.
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:53 am to C
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Just because the govt is giving out money, doesn't mean we should take it.
Wouldn't it be better to just limit veterans benefits in the future instead of taking away what you're already agreed to.
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And they're not "giving out money". They are honoring a contract.
This post was edited on 4/18/14 at 8:54 am
Posted on 4/18/14 at 8:59 am to a want
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They are honoring a contract.
There isn't a contract that says every veteran receives a minimum of 20% disability upon getting out of the service. But there also isn't a service member that can't claim something and receive a minimum of 20% disability.
And its no different than well off people taking food stamps so they can eat more steaks. That was not the point of the program when it started. We didn't create welfare programs so people good grill a steak once a week.
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