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re: CNN: If Trump threatens remittances, Mexico will walk from negotiations

Posted on 1/25/17 at 2:38 pm to
Posted by Easternrio
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 2:38 pm to
Wall just got 10 feet higher
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 2:42 pm to
Diez medicion de los pies alto.
Posted by Btrtigerfan
Disgruntled employee
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 2:49 pm to
A western union tariff on wire transfers to Mexico would be a start.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 3:01 pm to
I don't see why we can't tax remittances at 50%.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95527 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 3:18 pm to
Too high and they start finding alternatives where we get $0 of it.

The idea is to bleed them to get a cut of what they're sending, not kill Western Union.
Posted by crap4brain
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2004
2501 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 3:23 pm to
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Mexico will walk from negotiations


What Mexico doesn't understand yet is that these aren't negotiations. There will be no negotiating going on. Trump is going to tell them how its going to be, and they are going to say "si senor".
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34911 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 3:27 pm to
What "negotiations" is their presence critical to? I don't think Trump needs Mexico to implement his Policy.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 3:37 pm to
It's CNN, so it's probably alternative facts.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

There are other places with beaches to go.


Get the American tourist areas on board with 20% discounts and shite.

#MakeDaytonaBeachGreatAgain




Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 3:42 pm to
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I don't see why we can't tax remittances at 50%.


Because you actually want revenue. Tax at 50% and they'll figure out other ways. Hell, you could have multiple friends pool their funds together and have someone who is here legally just buy a plane ticket and take a suitcase full of cash back. You can't make the tax so high that they resort to other means.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 3:44 pm to
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How about a massive tax on all cruise ship passengers on ships headed to Mexico? On plane tickets to Mexico? Bring their tourism industry to a fricking halt. American tourists may not like it, but so what? There are other places with beaches to go. It might hurt cruise departures from New Orleans, but just go to Belize and La Ceiba instead.



Illegals send billions home every year by Western Union.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 3:46 pm to
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Hell, you could have multiple friends pool their funds together and have someone who is here legally just buy a plane ticket and take a suitcase full of cash back

TSA really has no legal means to seize the money but I wouldn't trust Mexican officials on the other end of the flight not to take you into the back room with a suitcase full of cash.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 3:48 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 3:49 pm to
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Hell, you could have multiple friends pool their funds together and have someone who is here legally just buy a plane ticket and take a suitcase full of cash back

TSA really has no legal means to seize the money but I wouldn't trust Mexican officials on the other end of the flight not to take you into the back room with a suitcase full of cash.


Gotta factor in a little kickback into your budget.

Seriously though, just take it back in travelers checks. You pay cash for them at the American Express office. No way for the US government to touch it.

The people we are talking about are neither stupid nor lazy. You cannot make the tax so high that they find alternatives. Tax the wire transfers at 10-12% and they won't bother.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 3:55 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 3:57 pm to
Actually, at that point, you don't even need a plane ticket. Walk into an Amex office and pay cash for $10,000 in travelers checks. Then go to FedEx and ship them.

How would the US government tax that?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:12 pm to
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Actually, at that point, you don't even need a plane ticket. Walk into an Amex office and pay cash for $10,000 in travelers checks. Then go to FedEx and ship them.

How would the US government tax that?

the same way they killed online poker: make it illegal for US banks and CC to participate in these schemes
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:17 pm to
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the same way they killed online poker: make it illegal for US banks and CC to participate in these schemes





I know that for some of you youngsters, travelers checks are relics from the era of cassette tape players, but do you even understand how they are bought and how they work? Have you ever used one?

Kindly explain how Uncle Sam would ever know who you wrote the check to or where it ended up.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48357 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:43 pm to
WTF is this with Mexico thinking that they can frick with us?
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 4:51 pm to
Exactly the kind of shut that would havve made Obozo flinch and draw a red line.

It's comical how simple this stuff really is when it's not held up by politicians trying to posture the friends to make millions!
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23711 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 5:00 pm to
Of course none of you are offering any way that you can differentiate between legal immigrants or illegal immigrants. All you are proposing is taking money from people who live in the United States who wire that money to destinations in Mexico. Let me explain why this is likely a constitutional problem.

1. you are treating people differently under the law because they seek to wire money to a destination in Mexico. People wiring money to Canada or Iceland do not have a portion of their money seized. This may be a denial of equal protection of the law.

2. you are setting up a tax structure which does not apply to all Americans equally.

3. you are seizing money to force a certain class of Americans, those who seek to wire money to destinations in Mexico, to pay for a vanity wall so Trump will look like a tough guy. That isn't a valid government purpose to seize the money of one class of Americans.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29040 posts
Posted on 1/25/17 at 5:02 pm to
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Mexico will walk from negotiations



So long as they walk south ... I'll allow it.
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