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re: Clinton popular vote margin just went up to 1,150,000
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Ballots in heavily mexican san diego county...
The wall just got 10 feet higher.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
If you're going to flood the rolls with illegals, at least spread them out to states where it will make a difference. It serves no purpose to have a bunch of illegals voting in CA and New York.
Next time. Dipshits.
Next time. Dipshits.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The Founding Fathers obviously envisioned this election year. They gave us the Electoral College.
Probably not many around here that remember, or know, that in fact the Democrats have a rather long history of stealing elections and stuffing ballot boxes.
Kennedy's win over Nixon is a case study in MSM collaboration with the liberals, voter fraud dirty tricks, etc., for example.
Probably not many around here that remember, or know, that in fact the Democrats have a rather long history of stealing elections and stuffing ballot boxes.
Kennedy's win over Nixon is a case study in MSM collaboration with the liberals, voter fraud dirty tricks, etc., for example.
quote:
Fifty years ago next week, Richard Nixon stood uncomfortably on the Capitol's inaugural platform and watched his rival John F. Kennedy being sworn in as president. "We won" the election, Nixon fumed, "but they stole it from us."
Indeed, the dirty tricks that helped defeat Nixon were more devious than merely the ballot-stuffing of political lore. In one of the least-known chapters of 20th-century political history, Kennedy operatives secretly paid off an informant and set in motion a Watergate-like burglary that sabotaged Nixon's campaign on the eve of the election.
It began in the fall of 1960, when the Kennedy campaign spread word that Vice President Nixon had secretly pocketed money from billionaire Howard Hughes, whose far-flung business empire was heavily dependent on government contracts and connections. Reporters for the St. Louis Post-Dispatch and Time magazine corroborated the allegations, but their editors feared publishing such explosive information in the last days of the tightly fought campaign.
So the Kennedys turned to two crusading liberal columnists, Drew Pearson and Jack Anderson, who had been attacking Nixon for the past decade. It was "a journalistic atrocity" to conspire with "the Kennedy hawkshaws to help us get the goods on their opponent," Anderson admitted, but scoring a scoop to destroy Nixon was simply too tempting to pass up.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:42 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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Electoral college failed America twice this millennium.
By "America" you mean South and Central America, so, you're right.
BUT, for the United States of America, the Electoral College has been a savior.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:48 pm to CaptainBrannigan
quote:
Electoral college failed America twice this millennium.
You misspelled saved
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
HailHailtoMichigan
Did you ever address why you're still posting after vowing to "never post again if Trump wins?"
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:52 pm to More&Les
quote:I was clearly wrong since I thought Trump would lose. And congratulations for your victory.
More&Les
BUT I told your that your estimation that Trump would get 70 or 75 million votes was just unrealistic for either candidate.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Ballots in heavily mexican san diego county and asian heavy bay area still pouring in.
Doesn't matter.
Democrats running up the score in safe blue California is actually a good argument as to why the electoral college exists and there's also the whole California is not representative of america thing you know.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:56 pm to CaptainBrannigan
quote:
Electoral college failed America twice this millennium.
It's not how many points you score all year long that determines whether or not you get into the playoffs, its determined by how many games you win.
In this instance Trump won 30 states and therefore the EC and Clinton won 20 states where she scored a gazillion points in one of them while still counting as only one state.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:59 pm to Sentrius
Campaigns would have been run differently if this was important.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 10:59 pm to Sentrius
quote:Conversely, Trump scored a gazillion points in those hard red, not very populated states.
In this instance Trump won 30 states and therefore the EC and Clinton won 20 states where she scored a gazillion points in one of them while still counting as only one state.
Again, it usually washes itself out, but I think the popular vote-EC split is quite different than the 2000 election when both were really close.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So take out California and Trump wins by 2 million?
Electoral College comes through again.
Electoral College comes through again.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:02 pm to buckeye_vol
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Trump scored a gazillion points in those hard red, not very populated states.
And they still only counted as x amount of electoral votes no matter how much Trump wins in the popular vote there. That's the beauty of the electoral college.
But honestly I would like to see an experiment of what happens when you split the electoral college up by congressional district.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:03 pm to Ace Midnight
I hope she wins the pop vote by eleventy Jillion.
The melt is too delicious
The melt is too delicious
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:05 pm to Sentrius
quote:
what happens when you split the electoral college up by congressional district.
and no two extra votes per state
then its closer to popular.
vermont and NH and Delaware would each lose 50% of their EV.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:10 pm to Sentrius
quote:Sure, I'm just saying that what's occurring in California, is also occurring in the partisan red states.
And they still only counted as x amount of electoral votes no matter how much Trump wins in the popular vote there
quote:I agree, but I do think that the EC is flawed in the extremes (both highly partisan states, and extremely close states).
That's the beauty of the electoral college
quote:I think this would be ideal (although districting is problematic); you could have an EC vote for each district and two at large votes given to the winner of each state.
But honestly I would like to see an experiment of what happens when you split the electoral college up by congressional district.
It would still offer the benefits of the electoral college, but it would also alleviate the problems with the partisan states and very slim margin states.
Best of both worlds.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:11 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Doesn't
Mean
shite.
Thank you Founders for your genius.
Mean
shite.
Thank you Founders for your genius.
Posted on 11/15/16 at 11:13 pm to CaptainBrannigan
Because a majority of states didn't vote for the Whore of Babylon or Mr.Global Warming?
The Electoral College is an amazing instrument of our republic. It may not be perfect, but it gives states with lower to moderate populations a say in electing our president. I don't want large population centers like Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Miami, and San Fransisco deciding presidential elections for the entire country.
The Electoral College is an amazing instrument of our republic. It may not be perfect, but it gives states with lower to moderate populations a say in electing our president. I don't want large population centers like Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Miami, and San Fransisco deciding presidential elections for the entire country.
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