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re: Circumstantial vs Direct Evidence re: Trump FBI investigation
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:37 pm to Rakim
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:37 pm to Rakim
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Clapper and several intel officials have said there is no collusion between Trump and Russia. Hell, Comey said it again today?
Clapper did say that with the qualifier of "to his knowledge" and "up until Jan 20th"
Comey didn't say anywhere near what you claim. Your statement is false at best and a bald faced lie at worst.
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:38 pm to Dignan
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Sadly, I believe there aren't many Democrats willing to look at evidence objectively.
FIFY
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:39 pm to Deuces
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If they were to ever convict Trump on "circumstantial evidence" of the establishment's bidding, I do not think the results would be great for the country.
I agree, this would be a bad outcome.
The evidence should meet the same standards as what all Americans are subject to in court rooms around the country.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:40 pm to AUstar
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Sadly, I believe there aren't many Democrats willing to look at evidence objectively.
So we agree that this should go to an independent commission?
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:42 pm to tigerinDC09
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Circumstantial evidence is going to sleep with no snow on the ground and waking up with snow everywhere.
Terrible example.
A better example would be having a lot of cash in your pocket, vs having a lot of drugs in your pocket.
One doesn't imply the other.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:43 pm to Dignan
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Great post and I wish this were the case. Sadly, I believe there aren't many Trump supporters willing to look at evidence objectively
Coming from people who have already decided, with no evidence that Trump is guilty of collusion.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:43 pm to tigerinDC09
quote:Like the transcript of Flynn's wiretapped conversation?
Direct Evidence is video of the snow falling.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:44 pm to Deuces
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So they can basically say I'm guilty of murder of a person I've never seen before but they can classify the evidence where it can never be seen and give me the death penalty by saying, "Believe us, it happened. We're the government. We're always right." Banana republic.
In your analogy. As long as a jury of your peers that would convict and sentence you would see the evidence, it would be perfectly fine.
That isn't Banana Republic, that's American constitution.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:45 pm to tigerinDC09
This is you admitting there is no evidence.
A win for the Trumpkins
A win for the Trumpkins
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:46 pm to NC_Tigah
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Direct Evidence is video of the snow falling. Like the transcript of Flynn's wiretapped conversation?
Direct evidence in this case would be intercepts of Trump associates talking with Russians about paying for hacking or coordinating when the best time to release leaked info.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:47 pm to tigerinDC09
What circumstantial evidence has been revealed?
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:47 pm to tigerinDC09
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Direct evidence in this case would be intercepts of Trump associates talking with Russians about paying for hacking or coordinating when the best time to release leaked info.
But not of Trump himself, because wiretapping.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:48 pm to tigerinDC09
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Direct evidence in this case would be intercepts of Trump associates talking with Russians about paying for hacking or coordinating when the best time to release leaked info
There is no collusion. Hillary lost, be a man and move on.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:48 pm to Antonio Moss
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What circumstantial evidence has been revealed?
Trump showed thanks when Putin complimented him.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:49 pm to tigerinDC09
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As mentioned in the briefing, it's highly classified. We can't know until it's declassified.
Since some of the evidence is linked to sources and methods, we may never know some of the evidence.
Well now, isn't that convenient.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:49 pm to tigerinDC09
quote:No.
Direct evidence in this case would be intercepts of Trump associates talking with Russians about paying for hacking or coordinating when the best time to release leaked info.
The leaked transcript of Flynn's wiretapped conversation is direct incontrovertible evidence of a felony. It is punishable by up to 10yrs in the fedpen.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There is no collusion. Hillary lost, be a man and move on.
It's almost as if some of these dolts actually believe that if they can delegitimize the election, Hillary becomes president by default.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:52 pm to NC_Tigah
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The leaked transcript of Flynn's wiretapped conversation is direct incontrovertible evidence of a felony. It is punishable by up to 10yrs in the fedpen.
The Dems are not interested in prosecuting Obama or Lynch or Brennan. Don't kid yourself. They are perfectly fine with committing felonies. It's the Democrat way.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:53 pm to Antonio Moss
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What circumstantial evidence has been revealed?
The public stuff is based on anonymous sources, so there's no way to know what public stuff is actually true, that's based on who you trust.
To me, the existence of the investigation indicates at least coincidental evidence. The classified may show more circumstantial evidence.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 3:54 pm to Godfather1
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It's almost as if some of these dolts actually believe that if they can delegitimize the election, Hillary becomes president by default
It's some deep emotional trauma that keeps them in some irrational fog.
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