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re: Chinese factory replaces 90% of human workers, Production up 250%
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:28 am to Blob Fish
Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:28 am to Blob Fish
Why the frick would you want to work 9 hours a day in data entry when you could climb a mountain, build your own house on top, and the sit inside and crochet hats for preemies out of Paracord?
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 12:56 am to Mephistopheles
As someone who has designed treatment algorithms, they are only as smart as the people who use them.
You have to be able to think clinically/critically. Until computers can consistently pass a Turing test on a massive scale, meh.
You have to be able to think clinically/critically. Until computers can consistently pass a Turing test on a massive scale, meh.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:22 am to BaddestAndvari
I'm in the process of launching a heavy equipment manufacturer. All machines will be built by hand using components made by a mixture of automation and bespoke configurations.
There will always be some market for people who know how to build stuff that can't realistically be automated.
Mike Rowe has the best perspective on this. Read and watch his stuff.
There will always be some market for people who know how to build stuff that can't realistically be automated.
Mike Rowe has the best perspective on this. Read and watch his stuff.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:27 am to joshnorris14
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This will lead to more problems than it will solve in my opinion
mostly due to the current theme of pretending it isn't going to happen
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:33 am to ForeLSU
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mostly due to the current theme of pretending it isn't going to happen
If robots put 90% of the workforce out of work, who will have money to buy the products produced by these robots?
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:37 am to Ag Zwin
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Mike Rowe has the best perspective on this.
Yep. People will always shite and drive cars. Configuring robots to fix toilets and engines isn't too close on the horizon I'd think.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:41 am to Revelator
UBI is inevitable
The transition is going to upset many, but we need to start planning now
The transition is going to upset many, but we need to start planning now
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 9:42 am
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:55 am to rocket31
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The transition is going to upset many, but we need to start planning now
That's not an answer to my question.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:02 am to Revelator
.. Yes it is..
If everyone was given UBI they'd have money to purchase goods
If everyone was given UBI they'd have money to purchase goods
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:12 am to rocket31
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If everyone was given UBI they'd have money to purchase goods
If Universal Basic Income was such a good idea and so easy to achieve, wouldn't it have been implemented already?
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:49 am to BaddestAndvari
World is gonna be like Star Trek. You ever see poor people on Star Trek?
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:51 am to Revelator
It has never been needed. New times are going to soon require new approaches.
It is being tested right now in Scandinavia.
It is being tested right now in Scandinavia.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:52 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Higher profits as long as competition uses people
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:52 am to BaddestAndvari
Think about how many more people could have jobs if we got rid of shite like refrigeration, or the wheel, or electricity!
Automation is a fantastic tool of human production. We WANT machines to do work for us. It makes us more productive and free to do other, more productive things with our time.
There will always be a need for manual labor in some capacity. The problem with that is that anyone can do those task with minimal training. Low skill, low barrier to entry jobs are always going to pay less. Want a good, long term job that pays well? You'd better learn a skill of some kind.
Automation is a fantastic tool of human production. We WANT machines to do work for us. It makes us more productive and free to do other, more productive things with our time.
There will always be a need for manual labor in some capacity. The problem with that is that anyone can do those task with minimal training. Low skill, low barrier to entry jobs are always going to pay less. Want a good, long term job that pays well? You'd better learn a skill of some kind.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:53 am to stuntman
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freeing up that labor to be used in more efficient parts of the economy.
Because that part isn't happening. Things are becoming more affordable, yes. But the people being replaced by robots are not finding jobs in other sectors of the economy. They are just becoming unemployed or under-employed.
Why? Because they do not have the skills necessary to move to the jobs with openings.
They could be... but that would require training, and someone has to pay for that.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:53 am to lynxcat
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It has never been needed. New times are going to soon require new approaches. It is being tested right now in Scandinavia.
Yes because our current welfare system has worked so well and creates incredible wellbeing.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:54 am to BaddestAndvari
Trump cant solve this one with trade barriers.
Computerized gadgets can replace people.
This was already the biggest problem and hes ignoring it.
Kick the can down the road.
Computerized gadgets can replace people.
This was already the biggest problem and hes ignoring it.
Kick the can down the road.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:55 am to Revelator
I prefer UBI but it is a sensitive balance in how it is setup.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:58 am to stuntman
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Jobs aren't ends, they are means. IOW, you don't work just to work. You work in order to gain purchasing power through the wages you earn. When things are produced more efficiently, which is what automation does, your purchasing power rises.
This is true, and it applies also to another issue currently being discussed: Obamacare. Health insurance isn't the ends, it is a means. Receiving health care is the ends. There are other ways to get people access to health care besides forcing them to buy health insurance. Those other ways may be better or worse, but they exist.
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Jobs we didn't even consider will open up in the economy
In theory, yes, but in reality this isn't happening, because again training, but also lack of investment.
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people will work a lot less, because people will be able to afford it.
Now you are getting into guaranteed minimun income territory.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:58 am to LSUFanHouston
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Why? Because they do not have the skills necessary to move to the jobs with openings.
They could be... but that would require training, and someone has to pay for that.
Not if we start instilling continuous learning and mobility into the younger generations. I've told my kids for years that they need plans B and C, and they always need to be learning from different fields than their own.
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