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Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:44 am to stout
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No. You could argue that had the permitted group been allowed their right to unopposed free speech that none of it would have escalated. By doing so you could blame her death on the violent left that doesn't respect other's rights.
They even had help from the ACLU obtaining the permit.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:44 am to PDXDawg
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the other side is anti Nazi not hitting people with cars. Hmmmmm so hard to choose.
Yea the other side is so peacful
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:45 am to Salmon
NO!
Did any of your regressive buds call out antifa AT ANY TIME?!?! Cowards wearing pussy hats who can't measure up to being real men and women!
Did any of your regressive buds call out antifa AT ANY TIME?!?! Cowards wearing pussy hats who can't measure up to being real men and women!
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:46 am to roadGator
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Picking sides is bad. Both sides suck hard.
People have a right to protest, and anyone who's too much of a snowflake to allow it should be publicly mocked.
The more people get sick of the extreme left/right, the closer the other 90% of the country gets to normalizing adult behavior again.
Who knows, maybe the "alt-left / alt-right" stuff is just a media ploy to calm normal people down.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:46 am to Salmon
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:46 am to Salmon
This is exactly the right time. Groups like Antifa equate offensive or hateful speech with incitement to violence. Our Supreme Court, in both the Brandenburg and Skokie cases, has ruled against this opinion and in favor of a robust 1st Amendment.
SJW's are promoting violence in order to get a violent response from their opponents, so they can then point the finger at their opponents as being violent. They want speech or symbols they deem offensive to be banned, and use violence to try and justify prior restraint on speech.
Censorship is far, far more dangerous to this country than a couple hundred guys running around with Nazi flags.
SJW's are promoting violence in order to get a violent response from their opponents, so they can then point the finger at their opponents as being violent. They want speech or symbols they deem offensive to be banned, and use violence to try and justify prior restraint on speech.
Censorship is far, far more dangerous to this country than a couple hundred guys running around with Nazi flags.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:46 am to Salmon
quote:Were they not the main culprits at Charlottesville?
Or any other time in which ANTIFA was the main culprits of violence.
I mean, they showed up just to cause violence.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:46 am to Salmon
He spoke with moral clarity, which is precisely what is needed. The Cultural Marxist media has their narrative shredded . Progs melted. The slippery slope of where the mob will take this was revealed to everybody.I'd say that's a yuge win and one much appreciated by those outside the Establishment bubble.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:46 am to stout
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No. You could argue that had the permitted group been allowed their right to unopposed free speech that none of it would have escalated. By doing so you could blame her death on the violent left that doesn't respect other's rights.
This is bad. This could be so easily turned around. Don't do this.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:46 am to Salmon
His father was one of 7 kkk men arrested after a kkk melee vs nyc police.
No way trump throws kkk under the bus.
His obfuscation was effective in that people predisposed to be on trumps side can cling to "well, it takes two to make a brawl".
No way trump throws kkk under the bus.
His obfuscation was effective in that people predisposed to be on trumps side can cling to "well, it takes two to make a brawl".
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:46 am to Salmon
Consider this and answer it for me:
If you were preaching in the street, leagally, and I ran up illegally trespassing and punched you, and then you punched me back way harder would you be OK with everyone in the country attacking you and calling you an a-hole for punching me and saying I did nothing wrong or at minimum I was OK to punch you but it's actually you that's completely in the wrong because of the content of your preaching and how hard you punch? I'm absolved from all liability and you get fricked. You cool with that?
You might be an a-hole, your preaching might be obscene nonsense, but you had the right to say it and I never shouldve run up and attack you right? And I deserve to be called out and ridiculed right? The entire focus of all wrongdoing shouldnt be squarely on you because your speech content was bad and you hit harder, right?
If you were preaching in the street, leagally, and I ran up illegally trespassing and punched you, and then you punched me back way harder would you be OK with everyone in the country attacking you and calling you an a-hole for punching me and saying I did nothing wrong or at minimum I was OK to punch you but it's actually you that's completely in the wrong because of the content of your preaching and how hard you punch? I'm absolved from all liability and you get fricked. You cool with that?
You might be an a-hole, your preaching might be obscene nonsense, but you had the right to say it and I never shouldve run up and attack you right? And I deserve to be called out and ridiculed right? The entire focus of all wrongdoing shouldnt be squarely on you because your speech content was bad and you hit harder, right?
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 7:51 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:47 am to Salmon
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when the other group literally killed someone
BLM killed cops in multiple cities and they are embraced by the Dems and invited to the White House by Obama. I'm sure you were up in arms over this.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:47 am to Salmon
The alt left is equally as bad as the neo nazis. Both are hate filled racist groups who engage in violence as needed.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:47 am to Salmon
I would agree with you except that the left and the media would never think it's a good time to call out their new army.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:48 am to Salmon
Why would I admit such a thing? We live in a nation where until recently we all pretty much agreed that even Westboro Baptist and their pathetic selves could protest free from being assaulted. For the last year we've lived in a nation where roving gangs of masked liberals were assaulting our fellow citizens in multiple locations and the left couldn't be bothered to even fricking take notice.
You got liberals on this very board saying they hadn't even heard of the anti-fascist assholes until recently. That wouldn't even be possible if it was liberals being assaulted by roving conservatives with masks
Now the Liberals suddenly want somebody to step forward and disavow bad people in their ranks? Yeah Excuse me while I don't give a frick what liberals think given that they told me with their silence for the last year that it is perfectly reasonable for me to fear attending a political event
You got liberals on this very board saying they hadn't even heard of the anti-fascist assholes until recently. That wouldn't even be possible if it was liberals being assaulted by roving conservatives with masks
Now the Liberals suddenly want somebody to step forward and disavow bad people in their ranks? Yeah Excuse me while I don't give a frick what liberals think given that they told me with their silence for the last year that it is perfectly reasonable for me to fear attending a political event
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 7:49 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:48 am to Salmon
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Saying "well those others guys were being mean too!" when the other group literally killed someone is lacking all situational awareness.
You mean awareness like "Trayvon could be my son"
start riots...
then we learn all kinds of bad stuff on this kid...
bad situation all around
you watch, you wait, much will be learned about Charlottesville...
Many sides are to blame...if you can't see that, then you don't want to see it
you keep holding up the torch photos....
just like the media kept posting Trayvon as a 9 year old boy...
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 7:49 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:48 am to Salmon
No. Click here. Third post down. Look at pics.
It was the perfect time to call to light the equivalency between the two hate groups.
It was the perfect time to call to light the equivalency between the two hate groups.
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 7:50 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:49 am to ApexTiger
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You mean awareness like "Trayvon could be my son"
Yes, exactly. That was awful situational awareness by Obama.
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