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re: Can we admit this was the wrong time to call out the "alt left"?

Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 1:31 pm to
It's the perfect time to call them out actually. No one would be talking about them if he called them out after one of their run of the mill riots.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:22 pm to
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Their permit was good to protest McGuffey Park and Justice Park which are blocks away from where they were when the fighting broke out.



The woman was killed at the intersection of Water and 4th Street. That's about 2 blocks from the park - 4th is one of its borders.

Aka, the park adjacent to the street in which a Nazi killed a woman.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:23 pm to
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what if you don't go up to Nazis and they don't attack you and you still engage in violence?


There's a first time for everything.

Is a Nazi calling for the death of your family and the bombing of your place of worship a peaceful protest? Literally, if someone says "I will kill your family and burn your church, tonight"...in your mind, that's just a shrug and walk away?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 2:35 pm to
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There's a first time for everything.

like 6 months ago?





CNN

quote:

Protests that erupted at UC Berkeley ahead of a planned Wednesday appearance by right-wing commentator Milo Yiannopoulos caused $100,000 worth of damage to the campus, the school said Thursday.

The university blamed "150 masked agitators" for the unrest, saying they had come to campus to disturb an otherwise peaceful protest.


quote:

Thu February 2, 2017


quote:

Is a Nazi calling for the death of your family and the bombing of your place of worship a peaceful protest?

not what i was referencing. i'll answer your question when you address an event that's 6 months old that you ran away from yesterday and that i have re-posted above
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:09 pm to
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not what i was referencing.


It was what you're referencing. When you go to counter-protest Nazis, that's what they do.

They're not peaceful old ladies knitting in a park, they're Nazis and they're threatening to kill your family and burn your place of worship.
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:11 pm to
Page 28! Truly one of TRUMP'S greatest branding jobs ever. I hear the alt-left really hates it too!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:11 pm to
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It was what you're referencing. When you go to counter-protest Nazis, that's what they do.

what about when authoritarian-left groups (likely including ANTIFA) used violence against people who were't Nazis and weren't even protesting?

quote:

They're not peaceful old ladies knitting in a park,

sometimes they're....gasp....saying non-threatening words

sometimes they're doing this while looking fabulous, too



quote:

they're Nazis

and when they're not?

those pics and that story i posted above involved 0 Nazis

so what about when they're NOT Nazis?
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 3:13 pm
Posted by Lg
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:15 pm to
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they're Nazis and they're threatening to kill your family and burn your place of worship.


So BLM should be looked upon with the same disdain as the NAZI's correct. I mean they threaten to kill cops.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:16 pm to
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Trump handled this weekend awfully. Why couldn't he stop after Monday's statement?



I think people are way to sensitive. There will NEVER be a good time to call out the alt-left. He handled it fine.

I'm convinced that nobody really gives a shite, but everyone is just trying to find something to nuke the other side with, politically...

I think in the end, people are fed up with the political correctness where people are splitting hairs over the wording he chose, even though it was perfectly clear what he meant.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:16 pm to
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what about when authoritarian-left groups (likely including ANTIFA)


Likely, vs definite Nazis? Do better

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sometimes they're....gasp....saying non-threatening words


Nazis? Sieg Heil and "Blood and Soil" are still threatening.

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and when they're not?


Still Nazis.
Posted by BamaAtl
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:17 pm to
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So BLM should be looked upon with the same disdain as the NAZI's correct.


Of course not. "please stop killing black people" =/= "kill all the black people, the jewish people, the catholic people, and the disabled people"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:18 pm to
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Likely, vs definite Nazis? Do better

Milo is not a Nazi

quote:

Nazis? Sieg Heil and "Blood and Soil" are still threatening.

no i'm talking about non-Nazis

quote:

Still Nazis.

so you're fine with groups like ANTIFA being able to use violence to shut down anyone?
Posted by link
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:19 pm to
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Nazis?
quote:

Nazis?
quote:

Nazis.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:20 pm to


the yarmulke is a dead giveaway for Nazi tendencies
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:20 pm to
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so you're fine with groups like ANTIFA being able to use violence to shut down anyone?


Of course not, they will say!

But they will say, if it incites violence, then yes!

[Forgetting no one was able to speak because the governor called a state of emergency]

Posted by Lg
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:21 pm to
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Of course not.


"We ant dead cops!! When do we want them? NOW!!"

Yeah. That's what I thought. Now you get to determine the threat of who gets killed.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:23 pm to
y'all. let me handle this

Bama is going to stop responding to me to ignore it and respond to the low-hanging fruit of your responses

Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:28 pm to
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y'all. let me handle this



Sorry SFP. Have at it. I'm just going to sit over here and watch the show.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 3:29 pm to
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So BLM should be looked upon with the same disdain as the NAZI's


LOL
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21894 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 9:50 am to
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Milo is not a Nazi


Milo wasn't at the Charlottesville march. Nazis were, however.
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