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re: California Orders Churches To Fund Abortions—Or Else
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:37 pm to Hawkeye95
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:37 pm to Hawkeye95
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I dunno about that. but I definitely have a different set of values than most here.
I see nothing wrong with abortion. Now would I prefer the woman to be on free, gov't provided birth control to getting an abortion? Yes I would, mainly due to cost. its a lot cheaper for birth control.
Its really a simple cost equation. Someone who doesn't want a kid is going to do a shitty job raising it, and likely suck off the gov't teat.
So why not support something like mandatory vasectomy's on any male on welfare and mandatory injected birth control for woman on welfare?
Of course that's slightly ridiculous too, but at least those people have a choice of what they do, the fetus does not. Abortion is a terrible means to end, and it isn't the only choice, it's just the easiest.
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:38 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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I am in no way agreeing with California on this, but if I'm reading this correctly, the insurers are being ordered to provide the coverage. If the churches were self insured would this still apply?
Yeah, IDK but... I think even if you are self insured you have to insure the minimum coverage mandated by the state.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:38 pm to asurob1
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Soon.
Nice tyranny. Well done.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:39 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:In all seriousness, this is pretty likely to happen.
Nice tyranny. Well done.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:39 pm to Hawkeye95
You're a sick frick to think surgical abortion is awesome. And I'm not against abortion but id rather only chemical abortion in the first 9 weeks be legal. People can decide by then whether to have a baby or not without waiting and going through a disgusting and evil procedure.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:41 pm to Hawkeye95
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I dunno about that. but I definitely have a different set of values than most here.
He's a shitty troll who fancies himself enlightened. Typical attention-seeking behavior, just let him talk.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:41 pm to FT
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In all seriousness, this is pretty likely to happen.
And what a wonderful world we will have when the only conscience we have comes from the state.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:42 pm to Wolfhound45
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Soon.
Nice tyranny. Well done.
thanks.
Next I hope we go after their tax exemption status.
Time to get these multimillion dollar corporations paying taxes like the rest of us.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:43 pm to FT
If that happens then separation of church and state will be officially over with.
Funny how Libs scream when people in public schools want to pray but it's ok for the state to force the church to perform services against their beliefs
Funny how Libs scream when people in public schools want to pray but it's ok for the state to force the church to perform services against their beliefs
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:43 pm to asurob1
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Time to get these multimillion dollar corporations paying taxes like the rest of us.
I'm guessing you don't include half of Democrats in your use of "us"
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:44 pm to asurob1
That is a pretty sad position to hold. I'd rather go the other direction and increase the number of tax exempt individuals.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:44 pm to asurob1
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Next I hope we go after their tax exemption status.
Time to get these multimillion dollar corporations paying taxes like the rest of us.
Do the members and employees of churches not pay taxes?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:46 pm to deltaland
quote:I'm not against anyone praying anywhere. It just shouldn't be done by someone representing the school. Students praying at their desks or between classes is no big deal, and isn't now.
Funny how Libs scream when people in public schools want to pray but it's ok for the state to force the church to perform services against their beliefs
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:46 pm to asurob1
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Next I hope we go after their tax exemption status.
I'm sure you do. I tell you what, if you will agree to do away with Welfare as a whole, then you can take away a church's tax exemption.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:47 pm to asurob1
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thanks.
Proud to be a tyrant. And a murderer of innocents. Well done.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:50 pm to asurob1
So silly. The category of "non-profit" isn't going anywhere. Whether it's the Red Cross or the Southern Baptist convention.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:51 pm to asurob1
This country was founded to get away from people like you.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:53 pm to deltaland
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Funny how Libs scream when people in public schools want to pray but it's ok for the state to force the church to perform services against their beliefs
None of it's funny. Just accept that they want to destroy alternative viewpoints and the people that hold them. Literally destroy. They care nothing for you, nothing for your offspring, nothing for anything because they have sold their souls.
They are the same people who committed the atrocities of the 20th century. They will do it again if we let them.
Don't try to be friendly with people like ASUROB and this Hawkeye character. They are monsters.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:54 pm to uway
quote:Tell us more.
uway
I'm not messing with you, I really want to hear your worldview.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 2:56 pm to Lg
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I'm sure you do. I tell you what, if you will agree to do away with Welfare as a whole, then you can take away a church's tax exemption.
I agree to your terms.
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