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Breaking: GOP release changes to the Healthcare bill.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:27 pm
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The changes include two measures that conservative Republican Study Committee members won at the White House on Friday: allowing states to require Medicaid recipients to work and allowing states to choose a Medicaid block grant over the cap system in the current bill.
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The revisions also include a change targeted at New York state that is expected to bring on board several wavering Empire State Republicans. That change would cut off federal Medicaid reimbursement for county contributions to Medicaid. New York Republican lawmakers argue this will relieve counties from having to pay into Medicaid and lead to property tax relief for constituents.
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also contain nods to calls from lawmakers to increase tax credits for older people to address projected cost spikes under the GOP bill, without actually making that change.
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Other changes in the bill include moving up the repeal of ObamaCare taxes to this year instead of next, another conservative request.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 10:29 pm
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:39 pm to Jjdoc
I'll allow it.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:42 pm to Jjdoc
There's a nice little bribe for Up-state NY Reps.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:48 pm to montanagator
IT still has some problems. But it's getting better.
The Freedom Caucus has the final say at this point. They will get their way on something. That's a win for me.
The Freedom Caucus has the final say at this point. They will get their way on something. That's a win for me.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 10:50 pm to Jjdoc
I just don't see something that gets the endorsement of the Freedom Caucus being moderate enough to pass the Senate.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:14 pm to montanagator
I do.
From them tonight prior to the release of the changes
It's the last line....
What they are seeking:
So what will they get? A compromise of that. You are not going to get something passed with out the following covered some how...
1- Pre existing conditions. Let's take a kid born and at the age of 8 develops an illness he or she will carry with them the rest of their lives. They should be allowed coverage. I don't think they should be lumped into a huge premium pool.
At the same time, I don't think they should be allowed to not have coverage for years and years and then all of the sudden it's time for a surgery and now they want it.
2- College students staying on their parents coverage. I'm ok with that.
So with in these 2 things, we CAN find common ground.
From them tonight prior to the release of the changes
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“I think that cooler heads will prevail and we will find a way to get to 'yes' with some reasonable amendments that are negotiated in good faith,”
It's the last line....
What they are seeking:
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The Freedom Caucus’s main objection is that the measure does not do enough to lower premiums. The conservatives want to repeal ObamaCare’s insurance regulations, such as the essential health benefits that mandate which health services an insurance plan must cover. They say these regulations drive up premium costs.
So what will they get? A compromise of that. You are not going to get something passed with out the following covered some how...
1- Pre existing conditions. Let's take a kid born and at the age of 8 develops an illness he or she will carry with them the rest of their lives. They should be allowed coverage. I don't think they should be lumped into a huge premium pool.
At the same time, I don't think they should be allowed to not have coverage for years and years and then all of the sudden it's time for a surgery and now they want it.
2- College students staying on their parents coverage. I'm ok with that.
So with in these 2 things, we CAN find common ground.
Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:20 pm to montanagator
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I just don't see something that gets the endorsement of the Freedom Caucus being moderate enough to pass the Senate.
I see letting the current fricking trainwreck of a system burying a lot of the Senate.
"moderate" do nothing pieces of shite
Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:21 pm to Jjdoc
The other worry for the GOP-- does this go too far for Lee-Cruz-Paul, Lee's already released a statement that seems pissy but might just be him venting.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 3/20/17 at 11:23 pm to gthog61
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I see letting the current fricking trainwreck of a system burying a lot of the Senate.
"moderate" do nothing pieces of shite
Will look just as bad on the GOP. They don't OWN obamacare, but they OWN the issues of Obamacare.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:30 am to Jjdoc
It's getting closer
Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:37 am to Jjdoc
Prob a stupid question. If a state requires a Medicaid user to work, what about an elder who like can't work? I'd their an age restriction on that I wonder. There has to be right? I am all for making a person using Medicaid be required to work. Time to break out the roach killer.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:39 am to PhillipJFry
If they are elderly, why are they still on Medicaid instead of Medicare?
Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:46 am to The Balinese Club
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If they are elderly
There are some on here that think anyone over fifty already has one foot in the grave.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 6:49 am to The Balinese Club
I guess I am thinking about the 55 to 65 year olds that were laid off/fired and can't find work that don't have a disability. A lot of grey area there.
Like do they need to prove they are looking for work somehow.
Like do they need to prove they are looking for work somehow.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 7:53 am to PhillipJFry
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Like do they need to prove they are looking for work somehow
You'd think people would have to prove they're looking for work to get unemployment checks but all you have to do is "certify" you're looking for work to get them.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:02 am to PhillipJFry
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If a state requires a Medicaid user to work, what about an elder who like can't work? I'd their an age restriction on that I wonder. There has to be right? I am all for making a person using Medicaid be required to work.
I read yesterday that of those able-bodied adults on Medicaid, only 13% don't work. And of those that don't work, 75% don't because they're caring for someone that is disabled.
I don't mind having a requirement that if you're able to work, you should be at the very least trying to find work, but I also think it's not as huge of a problem as some conservatives make it out to be.
Myths about Medicaid
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:13 am to The Spleen
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it's not as huge of a problem as some conservatives make it out to be.
It never is, but Republicans hate to pass up an opportunity to frick over the poor.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:19 am to BamaAtl
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It never is, but Republicans hate to pass up an opportunity to frick over the poor.
How so? Republican like it when people work. That helps everyone, including the govt.
Give a man a job or give a man a free govt check. Which sounds better to you?
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 8:20 am
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:27 am to BamaAtl
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It never is, but Republicans hate to pass up an opportunity to frick over the poor.
If by frick over the poor you mean not give them too much free shite so they don't get dependent on it then yes.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 8:28 am to i am dan
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How so?
Almost everyone on Medicaid is unable to work.
Of those able to work, the vast majority are also taking care of ill family members.
You're asking someone who's poor and taking care of an ill family member to go out and find a job or else you'll rip their health care away.
These aren't people who are choosing not to work because they like living off the government; they're choosing not to work because they're keeping their family member alive or they're unable to work.
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