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re: Bleeding heart liberal tells us what a NAZI really is
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:02 pm to BamaNixon
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:02 pm to BamaNixon
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You mean like providing for the common defense and promoting the general welfare?
No, like telling teenage girls to have children before they get married. They were called 'Hitler's children'. They were needed by the state ..not for defense...for totalitarian domination. Totalitarianism is a leftist concept. It's the opposite of free market capitalism.
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:05 pm to MrCarton
FEE is a libertarian economic think tank. While I tend to agree with much classic libertarian thought, they are not immune to creating statist boogeyman. And Hitler is the biggest baddest boogeyman of them all.
State control of the economy is not exclusive to socialism, and the crux of the writer's argument hinges on state control of the economy.
State control of the economy is not exclusive to socialism, and the crux of the writer's argument hinges on state control of the economy.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:08 pm to Zach
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No, like telling teenage girls to have children before they get married. They were called 'Hitler's children'. They were needed by the state ..not for defense...for totalitarian domination. Totalitarianism is a leftist concept. It's the opposite of free market capitalism.
That's interesting, but beside the point. You stated that socialism is sacrifice for the common good. All civilization entails sacrifice for the common good.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:15 pm to BamaNixon
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That's interesting, but beside the point. You stated that socialism is sacrifice for the common good. All civilization entails sacrifice for the common good.
That's false equivalence. IE, if a free market capitalist economy agrees to pay for a highway then it equals a Socialist state. You don't understand value systems. All ideologies are based on a premise. The continuum is the state over the individual (left) and the opposite side is the individual over the state (right).
This is why the ultimate right wing is anarchy. But today's 'anarchists' have no idea what it means. Absence of govt is the anarchy of pioneers who moved west without benefit of law, courts or deeds.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:15 pm to BamaNixon
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State control of the economy is not exclusive to socialism, and the crux of the writer's argument hinges on state control of the economy.
Ok dude.
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FEE is a libertarian economic think tank
Ok. We are done here.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:21 pm to Zach
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That's false equivalence.
It's really not. If anything, it's poor use of language on your part. I'm not arguing left vs right. I haven't done that at all. Not once. I'm arguing that nazi-ism isn't socialism. Some seem to think that a command and control economy is the definition of socialism. It isn't, or many ancient societies (early to mid-empire Rome, for example) would be socialist. It's not exclusively socialist to subjugate individual will to the state, either.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:26 pm to MrCarton
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Ok dude.
I'm not sure what's gotten you all worked up. I didn't say anything particularly controversial. FEE is absolutely a libertarian think tank. There's nothing wrong with being a libertarian think tank. Are you arguing that they aren't libertarian? Because if so, I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 5:27 pm to BamaNixon
So, saying, "Ok, dude," is a rational reasoning for being worked up?
Face it.
None of the KKK members today were NAZIs in NAZI Germany. They don't agree with socialism, and, in fact, are capitalists, and the left actually agrees more with the NAZI ideology than any conservative would today.
Remind me how many blacks the NAZI movement killed.
This is utter horseshite, hence, why Mc said he is done with the conversation.
Face it.
None of the KKK members today were NAZIs in NAZI Germany. They don't agree with socialism, and, in fact, are capitalists, and the left actually agrees more with the NAZI ideology than any conservative would today.
Remind me how many blacks the NAZI movement killed.
This is utter horseshite, hence, why Mc said he is done with the conversation.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 8/23/17 at 5:27 pm to Zach
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That's an arbitrary distinction. It simply means that Nazis were socialists who didn't like Jews or Gypsies (blood). They're still socialists because they believed in sacrifice for the common good.
It's not arbitrary at all, for the reasons I already laid out. Socialism is fundamentally an economic philosophy, National Socialism was not. I'm not sure why so many on both the left and right in the U.S. willfully suspend their own objective critical thinking in an effort to simplify Nazis to more neatly align with their respective opposites on the American political spectrum.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 5:29 pm to Zach
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That's false equivalence. IE, if a free market capitalist economy agrees to pay for a highway then it equals a Socialist state. You don't understand value systems. All ideologies are based on a premise. The continuum is the state over the individual (left) and the opposite side is the individual over the state (right).
Ahh, the Libertarian scale. Now I see why this discussion is futile.
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