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Bleeding heart liberal tells us what a NAZI really is

Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:01 pm
And how today's interpretation doesn't mean what everyone thinks it means. Words mean something; and this liberal actually has a good sense of that.

Youtube VIDEO NSFW (language)

The alt-right CANNOT be NAZIs is basically what he is saying. Like I said, this guy is a liberal, and he makes a lot of sense since the alt-right are not socialists. He uses guy's like Spencer's own interviews to prove his point.

He is not an SJW, in fact, he hates them, but he is a lifelong liberal and very funny. The video is kind of long (27 mins) but worth the watch when you have time.

He also roasts TYTs often, and those can barely be found on YouTube due to censorship. If only liberals today still thought this way....
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:04 pm to
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since the alt-right are not socialists. He uses guy's like Spencer's own interviews to prove his point.


have you ever heard Richard Spencer speak to this? I suggest you look it up. Dude is a socialist through and through.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:05 pm to
Lol. Watch the video if you can't understand it, man. His own words. Not Mine.
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:21 pm to
yea I get it, a lot of people who identify as "alt right" are not necessarily Socialists...but Richard Spencer most certainly is.
Posted by BamaNixon
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:46 pm to
If you believe the Nazis were socialist because of the name, then you probably believe that the People's Republic of Korea is a republic.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:49 pm to
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If you believe the Nazis were socialist


They weren't socialists?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:54 pm to
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They weren't socialists?




They were socialist. It's these kids these days trying to rewrite history.
Posted by larry289
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:58 pm to
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If you believe the Nazis were socialist because of the name, then you probably believe that the People's Republic of Korea is a republic.

Thank you for stating this for so many historically clueless people on this board.
Posted by weptiger
Georgia
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:59 pm to
The fact that the left reports Nazis as a significant issue of concern in the year 2017 tells you how desperate and delusional they are for any semblance of a message.
Posted by BamaNixon
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:01 pm to
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They weren't socialists?


Nope. Socialism is class-based and is keyed on the distribution of wealth. Hitler's particular brand of fascism was race-based and consolidated wealth, particularly in corporate cartels. Like any central government, there are small things the Nazis did that were socialist in nature, but Hitler worked to destroy unions, murder actual socialists, and worked to build an Aryan industrial oligarchy. Far from the socialist goal of rule by the proletariat, Hitler quite obviously ruled by the fiat of the dictator.

The Nazis called themselves socialists to draw in the working class and capitalize on the popularity in Europe of the "new" philosophy.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:01 pm to
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Thank you for stating this for so many historically clueless people on this board.


So NAZI, doesn't mean "National Socialist"

fricking retards.
Posted by BamaNixon
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:05 pm to
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So NAZI, doesn't mean "National Socialist" fricking retards.


I hear The PRK is looking for some great people to represent the inhabitants of that fine nation. I mean, the people in North Korea hold the political power, right? I mean, IT SAYS SO RIGHT IN THE NAME!
Posted by Abadeebadaba
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:06 pm to
Let's just be clear with one thing, Richard Spencer created the term "Alt-Right". I am not saying he is "Alt-Right" or that he is not "Alt-Right". I am simply saying he is the person that created it. So, one would think that he is the person who defines what the "Alt-Right" is or is not.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38235 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:07 pm to
I see you trying to use North Korea as a shitty excuse for your rewrite of history. The fact is, the left is more like the NAZIs than the alt-right will ever be.

Watch the video, you just may learn something.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:07 pm to
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They weren't socialists?


Meh, they were something rather different. They were fundamentally authoritarian nationalists. Economics was not central to Hitler's worldview in respect to theory or governmental organization. He simply asserted that there is no economic dogma that supercedes the state's authority to intervene in economic matters when deemed in the national interests.

Government ownership of means of production or control of major components of the economy were not central tenets of National Socialism as they are for socialists.
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Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38235 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:08 pm to
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Let's just be clear with one thing, Richard Spencer created the term "Alt-Right". I am not saying he is "Alt-Right" or that he is not "Alt-Right". I am simply saying he is the person that created it. So, one would think that he is the person who defines what the "Alt-Right" is or is not.




Great! WTF does that have to do with this thread? With the alt-right being NAZIs?

Watch the video man. Learn something today.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:09 pm to
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The Nazis called themselves socialists to draw in the working class and capitalize on the popularity in Europe of the "new" philosophy.


Totally wrong. The value system of socialism is the subjugation of the individual to the good of the collective. Nazi Germany fit that to the 'T'. It's the opposite of a free society where individual freedom of choice trumps 'the state.'
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:14 pm to
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The value system of socialism is the subjugation of the individual to the good of the collective. Nazi Germany fit that to the 'T'. It's the opposite of a free society where individual freedom of choice trumps 'the state.'



Zach with the killshot.

All kinds of "no-true-scotsman" going on in this thread
Posted by BamaNixon
Stumptown
Member since Nov 2010
3266 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:16 pm to
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I see you trying to use North Korea as a shitty excuse for your rewrite of history


It's not a rewrite of history. It's the consensus of historians. You might be surprised that scholars go beyond your assertion that they called themselves socialists so they must be socialists.

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The fact is, the left is more like the NAZIs than the alt-right will ever be.


I haven't opined on this at all, so I view your statement is an attempt to distract from your losing argument. Also, your statement is an opinion, not a fact.
Posted by Abadeebadaba
LSU fan @ FSU
Member since Sep 2010
4983 posts
Posted on 8/23/17 at 3:19 pm to
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Great! WTF does that have to do with this thread? With the alt-right being NAZIs?

It was more so to clear up misconceptions.

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Watch the video man. Learn something today.


Sorry, I don't have 30 minutes to waste watching someone on youtube get his jollies off. Anytime that you have to refer me or anyone else (twice in this thread) to "learn" something, kind of shows just what kind of mouth breather that you are. No one insulted your intelligence, but we easily could have.

ETA: and btw, I actually like that guys YT channel. But, I can form my own opinions and I don't need his somewhat comedic medium to do that for me.
This post was edited on 8/23/17 at 3:21 pm
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