re: Bill Kristol mad and melting that Trump used the term America first

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No you guys are morons. "America first" was an organization that worked to keep America out of ww2 which is fine, except that composed of many prominent anti- semites.

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"Put America first" is a grammatical sentence meaning exactly what is says. Just because someone somewhere at sometime used obvious words and then did something you dont like doesnt make those words off limit.

If i started an organization called "American Pride" and then did horrible shite would "proud to be an american" be a off limits?

To be fair, it's United States of America not America

"America First" "is wrong"

Think about how stupid that is. You are saying that thinking of Americans needs coming first is wrong. When Americans are the voters.

Really dumb....

"America First" was first used by Warren Harding in the 1920 election. Following Wilson's involvement in WWI, Americans wanted to return to a policy of isolationism and neutrality in world affairs. "America First" doesn't imply that we don't care about the welfare of other nations; it means that we will put our interests first. I couldn't believe how many times Trump used the phrase because I was just talking about the similarities between Harding and Trump...at least their approach to American interests. Harding was probably the worst president we've ever had and he was followed by two (maybe three) terrible presidents: Coolidge, Hoover, and (Roosevelt). Hopefully Trump will be able to bring us back to greatness.

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No you guys are morons. "America first" was an organization that worked to keep America out of ww2 which is fine, except that it was composed of many prominent anti- semites.

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:sigh:

you really are just a MSM parroting machine, arent ya?

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No you guys are morons. "America first" was an organization that worked to keep America out of ww2 which is fine, except that it was composed of many prominent anti- semites.

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So a President with an Orthodox Jewish son-in-law and a daughter who converted to Orthodox Judaism who is raising their children as Orthodox Jews, both of whom are his top advisers, is going to be anti-Semetic?

When President Trump was talking about how bad drugs have ruined this country, you must have been cut to the quick.

You make a fair point centinel.

And guess what? I would love for you to be right and for my worries to be unfounded.

I just worry that to DJT America First means turn our backs.

So the POTUS should never say "America First" because America is the leader of the world a want?



So can say the leader of Germany say "Germany First" is that ok?

I suppose Mexico in your view is all right to say such.

You know what "America First" means? frick all.

It's a vague cover letter that just dresses up the underlying agenda. Like "Hope and Change."

The real question pertains to evaluating that underlying agenda. At this point, as I read across this board, I am not sure there is even a clear understanding and articulation of the specifics of what that is(and when you contrast Trump's rhetoric with his cabinet nominees and their stances, I am not sure this administration even fully knows). So there is just all this talking past each other and people arguing while on different planes of assumption. Where it seems like the real dividing line is how you feel about Trump the personality.

Because for me personally, it is hard to square his rhetoric today with not only some of his past statements but those of the people he has selected to carry out his agenda. For instance you have Tillerson testifying that he sees the NATO treaty as inviolable, while his boss questions it's relevance. Mattis goes on a rant of how invaluable NATO is to America's strength in the world, European stability and hedging Russian aggression. His boss says its obsolete. Both nominees take hard stances on Russia's harmful aims that come at the expense of American values and strength, while Trump talks about reducing sanctions set up to punish the breaking of international law, human rights violations, escalation and suppression of domestic freedoms.

Trump brings on Tom Price to set the health care agenda, while undercutting many of his positions and ideas when Trump suggests Medicare should negotiate with drug companies. Leaving Tom Price deflecting to avoid stating his position is not in support of that.

Is Trump's an administration that is making populist appeals but will govern with mostly establishment party movement on Russia and European alliances? Or is he truly looking to step back from the world stage and aiming to undo alliances? Which idea is actually the right one? And will people that pick a side not waffle if this administration chooses the other direction?

Will Trump push for Medicare negotiation with drug companies? Or will he take Price's prior position that this is a "solution in search of a problem." Implying there is no problem. What position is better and are people going to stand by that or bend depending on what side of Trumps cult of personality you fall on?