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re: Bill Introduced to Terminate the EPA

Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32950 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:40 pm to
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We sure love our beautiful and clean country. Don't we, folks?

Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
910 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:41 pm to
Can't believe I'm agreeing with you as I thought you had zero logical reasoning skills.

That's exactly what we should do. Immediately cut a certain percentage across the board and then set a date in a year that if we haven't cut a certain amount of fat from the budget/deficit another across the board cutting automatically happens
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29649 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:42 pm to
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I'm looking forward to the TD posts after every state north of Louisiana dumps their sewage and toxic waste in the Mississippi River.
Another drama queen.

Does this bill terminate the Louisiana DEQ also?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118914 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:43 pm to
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How about a 5-10% cut to everything? Military, SS benefits.....all gov. depts?


Do it.

However the Uniparty cried like petulant children when the Penny Plan was introduced. (1% cut per year until the budget is balanced.)
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51737 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:43 pm to
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Why is it that eliminating is the only solution with you guys?


Because you don't just skim the top off of a tumor, you cut the whole thing out. After that useless mass is gone you can go in and make repairs.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17027 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:43 pm to
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a want



quote:

I'm looking forward to the TD posts after every state north of Louisiana dumps their sewage and toxic waste in the Mississippi River.


So you're telling me without oversight people will just do whatever they want? I don't believe you.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65867 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:46 pm to
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I'm looking forward to the TD posts after every state north of Louisiana dumps their sewage and toxic waste in the Mississippi River.


Dump away! It's good business.

PT(R) Historical Logic Response: I don't eat crawfish so it doesn't affect me.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140657 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:47 pm to
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I'm looking forward to the TD posts after every state north of Louisiana dumps their sewage and toxic waste in the Mississippi River.


You do strike me as someone that would celebrate this.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29649 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:48 pm to
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Dump away! It's good business. 

PT(R) Historical Logic Response: I don't eat crawfish so it doesn't affect me.
And another drama queen.

Ever hear of the Louisiana DEQ?
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18678 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:48 pm to
Most companies report to their respective state environmental agencies for permits and accidental releases. Eliminating the EPA may not change many of the environmental laws, but I think it is a bad idea from a CERCLA standpoint. It will also create problems for states that share watersheds and have other scenarios where their pollution can impact one another.

I'm fine with reducing the EPA though. In Texas, the TCEQ and Railroad Commission are famous for pushing back against new regulations. Broad sweeping environmental laws may not be the best way to handle every type of pollution, and many regulatory issues should be up to the states.
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 12:58 pm
Posted by jackmanusc
Columbia, SC
Member since Apr 2012
3947 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:50 pm to
Here's a nice list of Louisiana superfund sites for you.
LINK
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41176 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:50 pm to
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So you're telling me without oversight people will just do whatever they want? I don't believe you.


It's like without the EPA, we'd suddenly become a third world polluted hellhole!
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26860 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:51 pm to
Do it. I would be all for it.

But why is 5-10% a magic number? What if some departments have 50% bloat? What if a department is completely unnecessary?

Do you recognize the potential that there may be unneeded federal departments?
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29649 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:54 pm to
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Do you recognize the potential that there may be unneeded federal departments?
And how many departments do the same things, i.e. overlap.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9421 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:56 pm to
This matches up nicely with the bill to abolish the Education Dept. GOP paradise in the making.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140657 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:56 pm to
Cool. Creat a charity and raise money to help those superfund sites get cleaned up.

You have the ability to make it happen. Dream big. Don't wait for mommy gov.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65867 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:58 pm to
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Ever hear of the Louisiana DEQ?


How would your state's DEQ accomplish anything resembling environmental protection in state and upstream working alone? You think big business spends money in your state fighting the EPA now? Those same businesses would crush a small state agency who has enormous budgetary restraints as we speak.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140657 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 12:58 pm to
I'd be willing to trade DOEd for the EPA. Deal?
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:02 pm to
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So you're telling me without oversight people will just do whatever they want? I don't believe you.





Before the EPA there were rivers in NJ that had so many combustible chemicals in them they spontaneously caught fire.

And dont forget Bhopal and a million other examples of industry killing and maiming people.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33956 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 1:03 pm to
I can't wait for our skies to look Mexico City in 10 years time.

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