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re: Big bang break through.... wrong. Team admits.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:55 am to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:55 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:I hope you mean objective morality and not absolute morality.
Either morality is absolute or it isnt.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:02 am to Roger Klarvin
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Either morality is absolute or it isnt.
All train compartments smell vaguely of shite. It gets so you don't mind it. That's the worst thing that I can confess. You know how long it took me to get there? A long time. When you die you're going to regret the things you don't do. You think you're queer? I'm going to tell you something: we're all queer. You think you're a thief? So what? You get befuddled by a middle-class morality? Get shut of it. Shut it out. You cheat on your wife? You did it, live with it. You frick little girls, so be it. There's an absolute morality? Maybe. And then what? If you think there is, go ahead, be that thing. Bad people go to hell? I don't think so. If you think that, act that way. A hell exists on earth? Yes. I won't live in it. That's me. - RR
Posted on 6/21/14 at 8:35 am to Roger Klarvin
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I always enjoy christians who think they know the bible only to be sent scrambling to google when people like me cite verses by heart.
Why lie? You gogle and pull word for word from sites. I have even shown you were you were wrong and you had to chase down a website for an answer that was not even close to right.
JJ .. I got this this too:
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I seriously doubt you have read the bible cover to cover more times than me. If you had, you'd have remembered Matthew chapter 15 verse 18. I also doubt you've read the text in the original Hebrew and Greek, or that your interpretation of scripture extends beyond orthodox dogma.
HAHA... Amazed that it's his go to.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 8:41 am to Roger Klarvin
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First, there is zero historical evidence of this. Most biblical scholars consider it allegorical.
Been through this. Again, if one has to be dishonest to make his case, then his case isn't really grounds to stand on.
Next, Most do not consider it allegorical. Again, why lie?
Posted on 6/21/14 at 8:43 am to dawg2357
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Roger are you talking about 5:18 or 15:18?
quoting from memory because he has read it so much.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 8:44 am to JazzyJeff
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So because he is not recorded as condemning slavery or the treatment of women means he was OK with it? Is that where you're going with this?
He does not understand this...
Posted on 6/21/14 at 8:48 am to Roger Klarvin
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Jesus actively endorsed OT morality
So all of those post about Jesus saying nothing about homosexuality would be voided by this statement correct?
Posted on 6/21/14 at 9:42 am to Roger Klarvin
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Jesus actively endorsed OT morality...
Really? Quote?
Posted on 6/21/14 at 10:00 am to darkhorse
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He does not understand this...
Truly he doesn't. The thing about people like Roger is, they are trying to explain a Spiritual book through a humanistic point of view. I couldn't care less how many times somebody has read the Bible, the only way that a person can understand it is if God opens their spiritual eyes to read it.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 10:04 am to JazzyJeff
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That's what's great about science. What we believe today will be scoffed at this time in 3014.
Yet you make fun of the people that doubt you today.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 3:32 pm to Lg
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The thing about people like Roger is, they are trying to explain a Spiritual book through a humanistic point of view.
He doesnt read it in its historical context, he reads it to pick at it based on his faith in science, and our current economic destructiveness
The guy would not have a pot to piss in, if not for car loans, mortgages, credit cards, student loans. Which is an historical anomaly. He would be an indentured servant praying that the family he worked for follows the tenants laid out in the Bible that allowed for his freedom. The first law governing indentured apprentises didnt pass until 1911.
But, "slavery is a Christian problem" - Roger
Posted on 6/21/14 at 6:40 pm to Revelator
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So all of those post about Jesus saying nothing about homosexuality would be voided by this statement correct?
Correct
I have always maintained Jesus spoke against homosexuality. To deny this is to deny his clear endorsement of the Law of Moses and the first century definition of sexual immorality, which would have absolutely included gay sex.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 6:43 pm to League Champs
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He doesnt read it in its historical context, he reads it to pick at it based on his faith in science, and our current economic destructiveness
I read in, many times, in my years as a christian. I read it for the same reason you do now.
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The guy would not have a pot to piss in, if not for car loans, mortgages, credit cards, student loans. Which is an historical anomaly. He would be an indentured servant praying that the family he worked for follows the tenants laid out in the Bible that allowed for his freedom. The first law governing indentured apprentises didnt pass until 1911.
And if the bible only endorsed indentured servitude, you'd have a point.
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But, "slavery is a Christian problem" - Roger
Never said that.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 6:45 pm to Lg
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Truly he doesn't. The thing about people like Roger is, they are trying to explain a Spiritual book through a humanistic point of view. I couldn't care less how many times somebody has read the Bible, the only way that a person can understand it is if God opens their spiritual eyes to read it.
Does leading a bible study count as attempting to read it through spiritual eyes?
I'll hang up and listen.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 6:50 pm to darkhorse
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Been through this. Again, if one has to be dishonest to make his case, then his case isn't really grounds to stand on.
Next, Most do not consider it allegorical. Again, why lie?
Because there is no evidence, and most biblical scholars do consider it allegorical. Many biblical scholars are not even jewish/christian.
As has been revealed in the past, you dont understand the difference between a biblical scholar and a theologian
Posted on 6/21/14 at 7:13 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:The evidence is the Exodus narrative. Someone claiming there is no evidence has absolutely no credibility whatsoever. None. Zero. Zip.
Because there is no evidence
Posted on 6/21/14 at 7:28 pm to NC_Tigah
There is no evidence supporting the Exodus narrative. Using that logic, there is "evidence" of elves and Middle Earth.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 7:33 pm to Roger Klarvin
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There is no evidence supporting the Exodus narrative.
Absolutely none? Seriously? Hmmmm.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 7:40 pm to Wolfhound45
Unless we count faked images of immaculately preserved chariot wheels and a small writing sample used by Christians who don't know what poetry is, no.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 7:42 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:The specificity is the evidence Rog, as it is with actual existence of Jesus. Identical scenarios.
There is no evidence supporting the Exodus narrative
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