re: Biden voters

Trying to help Biden voters:

1. How safely and effectively he withdraws us from foreign wars?

2. How he doesn’t enter us into new foreign wars?

3. Energy independence?

4. Safe and secure southern border?

5. Funding the WHO again

6. Pushing clot shot mandates for the winter of illness and death?

7. Having a plumber pay off loans for a lesbian’s degree in Women and Gender Studies?

8. Allowing Chinese spy balloons to travel our skies to help us study our weather

9. His policy of not being Trump?

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Then you should be to articulate why it is you find Biden’s policies preferable. And do it without sky screaming about Trump.

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I think if people were honest, Biden is not nearly as liberal as he's accused of being. Some of his biggest legislative wins of his presidency have technically been bipartisan. The infrastructure bill, the gun violence bill, the chips and science act, the inflation reduction act, etc. are all things that include items that both conservatives and liberals should be Ok with (but both sides are too busy sky screaming because it's not liberal enough or not conservative enough - or too liberal or too conservative). While none of these are slam dunk wins for either side, they were pragmatic victories that do more good than harm for the country.

Beyond what I feel are reasonable victories for any presidency, I also just have fundamental issues with Trump (and republicans in general) with regards to race, LGBTQIA rights, gun legislation, and reproductive rights. These are legitimate human rights and safety issues (although I know how you will characterize them) that frankly will prevent me from voting for any republican for the foreseeable future. As someone who is more centrist than leftist, I'm not on board with the Democratic party's anti-capitalist wing, but I can't ignore what I consider legitimate infringements on personal liberties.

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Trump will win. But then the price of groceries and housing and random stuff won't magically go back to 2019 prices, like so many people who are voting for Trump magically think they will.

Then the honeymoon will be over, and Trump will blame the Federal Reserve, the Deep State, the Swamp, the Cabal and whoever else for the cost of living magically not going back to 2019. Then Trump will double down and be extra bat shite crazy and all bets will be off.

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What does any of this have to do with the OP?

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I'm trying to help you.

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I appreciate that

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Biden’s policies are good for the country

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I am saying not sure EITHER sides policies are good for the country, just good for a handful who profit from their sides policies.


I think I posted in this thread or another that I want a POTUS who has the #1 policy of going the other way on the debt. As since the 1980 election neither side has done this, or given us strong movement in this direction.

If this helps, could care less about abortion (either side) as the end result does not affect a high proportion of the US population (legal). I think there is a solution somewhere in the middle Congress could agree on during this session and funnel the time and money on a more pressing issue.

Could care less about gun control (either side) as the end result does not affect a high proportion of the US population (legal). I think there is a solution somewhere in the middle Congress could agree on during this session and funnel the time and money on a more pressing issue. If we redirected Gun Control $$$$ to mental health we could solve 80% if this issue at 20% of the current cost.

If this helps, I could care less about southern border (either side) as the end result does not affect a high proportion of the US population (legal). I think there is a solution somewhere in the middle Congress could agree on during this session and funnel the time and money on a more pressing issue. Policy should affect ALL points of entry into the USA and IKE showed 80% of the problem could be solved without wasting taxpayer $$$$ on walls and guards.

I do care about ...

SCOTUS that reflects citizens not corporations first
POTUS that kicks Red Commies in the arse
POTUS that kicks Dope Kingpins in the arse
POTUS that kicks Wall Street kingpins in the arse
SCOTUS that keeps their own house squeaky clean
POTUS that brings back the WPA
SCOTUS that brings back education not truant officers
CONGRESS that brings back "Fairness Doctrine"
CONGRESS that enforces News, not entertainment passing as News
CONGRESS that replaces PUBLIC CHOICE THEORY with GAME THEORY

Is that more helpful to your query?

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Trump will win. But then the price of groceries and housing and random stuff won't magically go back to 2019 prices, like so many people who are voting for Trump magically think they will.

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Who are these people? You just made this up

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Then the honeymoon will be over, and Trump will blame the Federal Reserve, the Deep State, the Swamp, the Cabal and whoever else for the cost of living magically not going back to 2019. Then Trump will double down and be extra bat shite crazy and all bets will be off.

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Yall always assume because of Trump's brash nature that he is stupid...when he is leagues smarter than leftists like you.

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Damn dude! Which of these policies do you think are Biden’s which you agree with?

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He was arguing earlier that Trump is Putin’s puppet. He’s another TDS afflicted leftist trying to pretend he’s a centrist.

And the “Putin’s puppet“ is a direct result of being bombarded with media propaganda

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Trying to help AMERICAN voters:

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FIFY

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1. How safely and effectively he withdraws us from foreign wars?

2. How he doesn’t enter us into new foreign wars?

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Same issue, short answer is folks behind the scene actually good at foreign policy like Nixon and Carter had. You are not going to get effective policy in a person who has only 4 or 8 years to enable it. You need bi partisan with 25 - 50 year window to get this done. Also, we need to quit training the folks who later attack us like Osama (CIA trained)

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3. Energy independence?

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Started in the 70's with Nixon (R) / Ford (R) / Carter (D) then killed by Ronnie when he got in office

We are actually energy independent (among the Americas) but buy Middle East oil and ship American oil to Asia for the extra profit of a few large oil companies.

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4. Safe and secure southern border?

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I would include all points of entry into the USA and update the "Wetback" policy of IKE

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5. Funding the WHO again

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Are they still together? Are all of them still alive?
(just kidding)
Lots of global issues to attack but charity begins at home and a focus on local and regional usually is better for the average citizen then national and international (just less profitable for some of the largest corporations on the earth)

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6. Pushing clot shot mandates for the winter of illness and death?

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I grew up with family elders who lived the Spanish Flu firsthand. Be decisive! Strike back early and mean it.

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7. Having a plumber pay off loans for a lesbian’s degree in Women and Gender Studies?

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Bring back the WPA so we have gay and straight plumbers who are actually useful to the society. Since 1980 name me one industry that has raised prices 6% to 12% a year every year and did not draw fire from either party? Look at Berea College and why more higher education institutions do not follow their model

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8. Allowing Chinese spy balloons to travel our skies to help us study our weather

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Screw the Red Asians, support the Americas and White Asians instead

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9. His policy of not being Trump?

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DJT is a film flam man, not a POTUS
JRB is a lifelong bureaucrat, not a POTUS

Time to dump BOTH!

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Which of these policies do you think are Biden’s which you agree with?

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I am saying I have trouble with most of the "hot button" issues of either side and think NEITHER side will attack the debt, which is probably the most dangerous to the country and the bulk of its citizens. Is this hard to understand?