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Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:10 pm to
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:10 pm to
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will walk it the poll and write in "Neither" and while it may not count I can go home knowing I did my part to send a message that I am tired of having such lame choices to begin with!


Then you really have no say in things. You’re being given a choice, these are the two people who showed up.
Posted by Prophetelijah24
Member since Feb 2024
10 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:11 pm to
Dude... Lol y'all have got to get a grip with this "leftist" thing. Just because ppl see outside of you're delusional maga Dreamworld doesn't mean they are leftist. Y'all need help
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54792 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

You said you’re for lowering the debt but you support billions more for Ukraine.


You can do both

One cost a small share now to save much more $$$$ later

The other can be nicked a bit EVERY year over time to get the total down. Since 1980 we have run a SURPLUS in just one year in almost half a century?
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54792 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

You’re being given a choice


I am not, and if you can not see this now you are part of the problem, not the solution.

Voting Biden encourages more of the same
Voting Trump means more of the same

Have you never seen this graphic? (misquoted as Einstein)



Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12995 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

Dude... Lol y'all have got to get a grip with this "leftist" thing. Just because ppl see outside of you're delusional maga Dreamworld doesn't mean they are leftist. Y'all need help


Whose alter are you?
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12995 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:50 pm to
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I am not,


Except you are
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12995 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:52 pm to
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You can do both One cost a small share now to save much more $$$$ later The other can be nicked a bit EVERY year over time to get the total down. Since 1980 we have run a SURPLUS in just one year in almost half a century?


The $34 trillion debt didn’t happen in one spending package, you do realize that, right? It’s incremental spending like what you support in Ukraine.
Posted by Rip Torner
Member since Jul 2023
571 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:54 pm to
Covid not the vaccine has killed millions, it was essentially fabricated and I work in a hospital. Occasionally someone would come in critically ill but it was very rare even during the “height” of it so yes a lot is wrong with that statement
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54792 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:56 pm to
You (as an American voter) have 3 choices, you seem to think it is limited to just 2

Choice #1 = Biden, and more far left crap
Choice #2 = Trump, and more far right crap
Choice #3 = Neither, and sends a message to both sides to get together or get voted out in the future
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54792 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 6:57 pm to
You can keep focusing on a tree and I will keep the focus on the forest
Posted by minister of truth
Somewhere new for 6-12 months
Member since May 2022
1167 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:08 pm to
In reality it’s 2 choices.
Several posters have said that they’re not going to vote to send a message. The message it sends is 1 of the 2 parties wins. This is pie-in-the-sky thinking. How many “messages” do you think it’ll take for anyone to notice across 50 states? 1000, 10,000, 100,000? Maybe 1 million votes & no one in power will care. Good luck with your message!
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54792 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

Good luck with your message!


Thanks, hope has to start somewhere and the best of Merica usually starts at the bottom, not the top.

Trying to remember the actual laws but seems there is a clause about neither side attaining a certain % of the vote. If enough hit that "neither" option it would send a message.

When this country formed there was no "2 party system", that came alters groups wanted to stack the deck.

Federalist = Landed Gentry / Bankers / Lawyers
Democratic - Republicans = Most of the rest of the voters
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12995 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

You can keep focusing on a tree and I will keep the focus on the forest


You can’t see the forest for the trees.

You think you’re making some statement by not voting but what you’re actually doing is voting for the left, which I suspect you’re for anyway.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9618 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:21 pm to
Against Iran having nuclear weapons
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54792 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:39 pm to
quote:

You think you’re making some statement by not voting but what you’re actually doing is voting for the left, which I suspect you’re for anyway.


Yet again you view me in how you think about yourself. It is easier to put me in the "left" zone where you feel comfort that to see me as I really am and accept there is a 3rd path that promote real change and not just assigning blame to "them" over "us".

Jews / Muslims / Christians all fighting over some dirt in the Middle East. Each side promoting "Us" vs "Them" instead of considering that God made us all in his image.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
29160 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:40 pm to
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Trump will win. But then the price of groceries and housing and random stuff won't magically go back to 2019 prices, like so many people who are voting for Trump magically think they will.

Then the honeymoon will be over, and Trump will blame the Federal Reserve, the Deep State, the Swamp, the Cabal and whoever else for the cost of living magically not going back to 2019. Then Trump will double down and be extra bat shite crazy and all bets will be off.


So because Trump can't overturn cock sucking Brandon's dog shite policies overnight, that somehow makes Trump look bad? How mother fricking retarded are you?
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36224 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

but I can't ignore what I consider legitimate infringements on personal liberties.

I bet you wanted to jail people who didn't wear a mask or get vaccinated. You probably also think offensive speech is violence and should be banned. Today's Democrat Party has absolutely zero interest in protecting personal liberties.
Posted by minister of truth
Somewhere new for 6-12 months
Member since May 2022
1167 posts
Posted on 2/13/24 at 8:35 pm to
Question. About how old are you? I’m in my early 60’s
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12995 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 5:20 am to
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I bet you wanted to jail people who didn't wear a mask or get vaccinated. You probably also think offensive speech is violence and should be banned. Today's Democrat Party has absolutely zero interest in protecting personal liberties.


Nearly half of Dems say fines, prison time appropriate for questioning vaccines
Posted by BallHawg10
On the Flagship - Fayetteville
Member since Mar 2011
4055 posts
Posted on 2/14/24 at 7:08 am to
I voted for Biden in 2020 and will gladly vote for him again in 2024.

American Rescue Plan - unemployment benefits, child tax credit, vaccine rollout, etc.

Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill - bridges and roadways repair, expansion of broadband internet, clean drinking water, etc.

Gun Reform legislation - domestic abuse loophole, expanded background checks for 18-21 year olds, mental health programs, etc.

CHIPS act - huge win for shifting semiconductor manufacturing to being done here in the US rather than being so heavily reliant upon China.

Inflation Reduction Act - increase in corporate taxes and stock buybacks, capping the cost of insulin at $35 per month, set a $2K ceiling for annual prescription drug cost, and so on.

Also, the “you’re just voting against Trump” line is pretty silly. If someone offered you two choices for dinner - one is a plain turkey sandwich and the other is a bowl of soup mixed with ricin, you’re gonna pick the turkey sandwich, even if there’s nothing that great or notable about the plain old sandwich.

I welcome your downvotes.
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