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"Bernie Sanders's Religious Test for Christians in Public Office" - The Atlantic
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:10 pm
Video - Bernie Sanders Questions Russell Vought
Article from The Atlantic
Article from The Atlantic
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Article VI of the U.S. Constitution states that “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.” On Wednesday, Senator Bernie Sanders flirted with the boundaries of this rule during a confirmation hearing for Russell Vought, President Trump’s nominee for deputy director of the Office of Management and Budget.
Sanders took issue with a piece Vought wrote in January 2016 about a fight at the nominee’s alma mater, Wheaton College. The Christian school had fired a political-science professor, Larycia Hawkins, for a Facebook post intended to express solidarity with Muslims. Vought disagreed with Hawkins’s post and defended the school in an article for the conservative website The Resurgent. During the hearing, Sanders repeatedly quoted one passage that he found particularly objectionable:
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Muslims do not simply have a deficient theology. They do not know God because they have rejected Jesus Christ his Son, and they stand condemned.
“In my view, the statement made by Mr. Vought is indefensible, it is hateful, it is Islamophobic, and it is an insult to over a billion Muslims throughout the world,” Sanders told the committee during his introductory remarks. “This country, since its inception, has struggled, sometimes with great pain, to overcome discrimination of all forms … we must not go backwards.”
Later, during the question-and-answer portion of the hearing, Sanders brought this up again. “Do you believe that statement is Islamophobic?” he asked Vought.
“Absolutely not, Senator,” Vought replied. “I’m a Christian, and I believe in a Christian set of principles based on my faith.”
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After a long exchange on tax cuts for the wealthy and other issues directly relevant to Vought’s proposed role in government, this issue—Vought’s beliefs about the exclusivity of his religion—seemed to be the reason why Sanders saw him as an unacceptable candidate for office. “I would simply say, Mr. Chairman, that this nominee is really not someone who is what this country is supposed to be about,” Sanders said. “I will vote no.”
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 11:56 am
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Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:13 pm to LordoftheManor
Bernie says "Do as I say, not as I do".
Frick Bernie! He's a hack and a fraud.
Frick Bernie! He's a hack and a fraud.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:14 pm to LordoftheManor
Frick that socialist piece of shite.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:15 pm to LordoftheManor
Bold to make that public statement but it's factual to a Christian believer
Jesus is "I am" or he isn't. right? Any other prophet claiming to have common ground with Jesus is blasphemy. The teachings are contradictory...Christians have nothing in common with Islam...
there is no way to sugar coat the reasons Christians and other faiths have had conflict with Islam.
one faith is of the one true God, he sent himself
Facts are defensible..
Muslims cry but never back it up with Text...
Liberals play the emotional card
Jesus is "I am" or he isn't. right? Any other prophet claiming to have common ground with Jesus is blasphemy. The teachings are contradictory...Christians have nothing in common with Islam...
there is no way to sugar coat the reasons Christians and other faiths have had conflict with Islam.
one faith is of the one true God, he sent himself
Facts are defensible..
Muslims cry but never back it up with Text...
Liberals play the emotional card
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:16 pm to stinkdawg
I'm pretty sure like 7 total people that have a full time job support Bernie Sanders.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:17 pm to ApexTiger
Christianity and Islam cannot coexist within a singular nation.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:17 pm to LordoftheManor
Bernie Sanders is a pussy fart
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:19 pm to Luke
quote:
Christianity and Islam cannot coexist within a singular nation.
or planet. theyre two sides of the same coin.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:21 pm to LordoftheManor
I mean, if you're a Christian then by definition you think Muslims are wrong. You may not think they go to hell if you are a universalist/destructionist, but stating they don't know the true God is a requirement to be a Christian.
I really don't understand why making definitive religious statements bothers some people so much. I think they're all absurd and don't understand how otherwise intelligent adults believe such nonsense. And I don't have any problem with a Christian or Muslim saying I'm going to hell for that.
All I care about is whether or not you try to enforce religious belief through violence or law.
I really don't understand why making definitive religious statements bothers some people so much. I think they're all absurd and don't understand how otherwise intelligent adults believe such nonsense. And I don't have any problem with a Christian or Muslim saying I'm going to hell for that.
All I care about is whether or not you try to enforce religious belief through violence or law.
This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:24 pm to LordoftheManor
I'll trade that for Bernie to work a job that isn't tax payer funded
Posted on 6/8/17 at 8:41 pm to stinkdawg
I've often said I'd have preferred Bernie as an opponent vs HillDawg.
Not anymore. Hillary is a shite human being who stinks like shite. You know she sick and accept it. Bernie is sneakily dangerous, because he puts an avuncular face on communism.
Not anymore. Hillary is a shite human being who stinks like shite. You know she sick and accept it. Bernie is sneakily dangerous, because he puts an avuncular face on communism.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:26 pm to RoyalAir
This has been spreading quickly over social media, curious what becomes of it.
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:13 pm to LordoftheManor
Props to the Atlantic for that piece. Nice to see a left leaning magazine go after liberal hypocrisy.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 10:48 am to REG861
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Props to the Atlantic for that piece. Nice to see a left leaning magazine go after liberal hypocrisy.
Definitely a well written article.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 10:49 am
Posted on 6/9/17 at 10:50 am to LordoftheManor
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President Trump’s nominee
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Sanders said. “I will vote no.”
Well
No
shite
Posted on 6/9/17 at 10:51 am to Roger Klarvin
Good post.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:49 am to RoyalAir
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I've often said I'd have preferred Bernie as an opponent vs HillDawg.
Not anymore. Hillary is a shite human being who stinks like shite. You know she sick and accept it. Bernie is sneakily dangerous, because he puts an avuncular face on communism.
Oddly enough, I think Sanders likely beats Trump. He would have likely appealed to enough more upper midwestern voters to pull it off.
Other Republicans could have beaten Sanders, but he was likely kryptonite for Trump.
I also think that Trump was the only one who could beat Hillary.
Not that any of that matters.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:53 am to LordoftheManor
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Muslims do not simply have a deficient theology. They do not know God because they have rejected Jesus Christ his Son, and they stand condemned.
“In my view, the statement made by Mr. Vought is indefensible, it is hateful, it is Islamophobic, and it is an insult to over a billion Muslims throughout the world,”
Bernie belongs to the actual group that rejects Jesus. Muslims at least think Jesus was a prophet.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 12:00 pm to LordoftheManor
That's rich, a Jew administering litmus testing for Christians in Public Office.
Maybe the Jews big fat wife can give seminars on how to defraud investors out of millions of dollars.
Both are Shylocks
Maybe the Jews big fat wife can give seminars on how to defraud investors out of millions of dollars.
Both are Shylocks
Posted on 6/9/17 at 12:07 pm to LordoftheManor
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Article VI of the U.S. Constitution states that “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”
This only applies to the government. Vought worked for a private school when he took that action. Private entities are not bound by that provision in the Constitution, so Vought was within his rights to demand such a test.
However, Bernie is within his rights to question the action during a confirmation hearing and point out that if Vought repeated his past conduct while working for the governor that such actions would violate the Constitution. If Bernie is concerned that Vought may actually do so if confirmed, then Bernie is well within his rights to vote against confirming Vought.
While I think Bernie's concerns are poorly founded, they are not without some precedent and are perfectly within Senator Sanders's rights to hold and govern by. Bernie is not instituting a religious test, he is rejecting someone who in the past administered such a test, because if that someone were to be confirmed to his appointed post and repeat that behavior, that someone would be acting unethically and illegally.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 12:09 pm
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