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Bernie Sanders on NPR this morning (ACA repeal)

Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:57 am
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:57 am
Point 1:
The Republicans aren't letting moderate Republicans or Democrats see the new health care amendments! We have no idea what's in there!

Point 2:
This new plan rips insurance away from 23 million citizens, and provides $2 trillion in tax cuts to the most wealthy. This is the worst piece of legislation I have seen during all of my years practicing congressional politics.

So which is it Bernie?
You say 'you have not seen' the legislation AND that it's 'the worst legislation you've ever seen.'

Sounds like ol' Bernie Sanderstein is using hyperbole...shocking.

I wonder if he remembers chanting 'here, there, everywhere, yanks must die' in Central America back in his younger days?
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 9:59 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73823 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 8:58 am to
Dude is senile. Forever greatful to the DNC for rigging their primary
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23195 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:01 am to
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23 million citizens,


Been debunked on NPR previously. 16 of those only have insurance due to the penalty.

I'm sure the hosts of impeccable integrity made certain to correct that fallacy.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21898 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:01 am to
He pulls his numbers from the CBO analysis of the House-passed version of AHCA.

Rumors/leaks are that the Senators are making it worse.

They refuse to release the bill, or even discuss it with anyone outside of the group of 13 Republican Senators.


So he's right on both counts.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:02 am to
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This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73823 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:02 am to
quote:

So he's right on both counts.


Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23195 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:02 am to
quote:

So he's right on both counts


He's wrong that 23 are losing insurance.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:09 am to
So no words about resistance from old Bern?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43339 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:11 am to
So which of his houses did "the man of the people" make his comments from?

Or was it from his $170k Audi R8?

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67112 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:12 am to
quote:

The Republicans aren't letting moderate Republicans or Democrats see the new health care amendments! We have no idea what's in there!


Not true. The moderates are the ones running the show. Conservatives like Rand Paul have been repeatedly excluded from health care discussions on the hill.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22501 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:45 am to
quote:

no words about resistance from old Bern?
Oh yes there are.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:49 am to
A bill so bad that it can't be shared or debated openly
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 9:52 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Point 1:
The Republicans aren't letting moderate Republicans or Democrats see the new health care amendments! We have no idea what's in there!

Nancy Pelosi

Posted by Ceron86
Lafayette
Member since May 2017
89 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:52 am to
Didnt he get kicked out of a commune for being lazy?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39498 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:54 am to
Get real. Dems aren't interested in debate.

They weren't interested in debate when they forced the bill on Americans and they aren't interested in it now. They simply don't deserve a place at the table on this one.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:57 am to
quote:

Get real. Dems aren't interested in debate. They weren't interested in debate when they forced the bill on Americans and they aren't interested in it now. They simply don't deserve a place at the table on this one.


Hey, they aren't just hiding it from Dems. You seem alright with having an unseen, unscored, no-debate bill forced down your throat, so I won't hold it against you
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:58 am to
quote:

A bill so bad that it can't be shared or debated openly


Just like its predecessor?
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Just like its predecessor?


I thought Obamacare was bad? Do you want another one?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39498 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Hey, they aren't just hiding it from Dems. You seem alright with having an unseen, unscored, no-debate bill forced down your throat, so I won't hold it against you


That's exactly what Dems did to pass the aca. You seemed fine with it then, so what's changed?

The first step is to stop pretending like you are interested in a constructive debate about health insurance in america. Letting dems in only guarantees chaos and obstruction. The second step is to accept the fact that you screwed yourself out of a seat at the table when you went scorched earth on the aca. You didn't gaf about what the people thought of aca then, so you can't really complain now. Step three: move to London.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 10:11 am to
quote:

That's exactly what Dems did to pass the aca. You seemed fine with it then, so what's changed?


Nothing's changed. That's the fricking point! "Just like Obamacare" is my favorite new line here
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