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re: Ben Carson accepts position of HUD

Posted on 11/23/16 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 8:31 pm to
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Will this be the first HUD secretary to actually have lived in HUD shelters?


I seriously questioned this pick until I realized the above statement.

Who better to dismantle a slave system than one who has broken free?
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 8:36 pm to
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Ugh. HUD is a mess now as it is, and now we have someone with absolutely no clue about the industry heading it up. Not a good pick imo.


Ben Carson Admits What Trump Won't: He's Not Qualified
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Nov 15, 2016 ... Ben Carson Admits What Trump Won't: He's Not Qualified ... Eliot A. Cohen . . . said in an interview on Tuesday that a Trump transition aide ... president but, according to his spokesman, he does not think he is qualified to run a ...
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 8:39 pm to
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Will this be the first HUD secretary to actually have lived in HUD shelters?
Or, the first ever cabinet position to have lived through the same?
I know Ben Carson grew up in a relatively poor area of a city, but was he ever in HUD backed housing? I could have sworn he grew up in a small house and wasn't aware of any project or apartment type living.
Posted by DupontsCircle
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 8:42 pm to
Provide opportunities to underserved populations through advocacy and development of opportunities for urban renewal.

Off the top of my head.
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:16 pm to
Appreciate you two taking a stab at it.

HUD is a massive subsidized social engineering department. It's mission is as malleable as the CEO of the country wants it to be.

There is literally no qualification other than to be a competent manager.

Trump's vision of what HUD *should* be in a Trump-directed America is what dictates whether Carson is an excellent pick or not.

My point being, it would be extremely premature (assuming you are posting in good faith and with an open mind) to hammer Carson as a good or bad pick for HUD.

Carson could be a stud for it... or he could be completely wrong.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:20 pm to
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Ben Carson Admits What Trump Won't: He's Not Qualified
www.schoolsmatter.info/2016/11/ben-carson-admits-what-trump-...
Nov 15, 2016 ... Ben Carson Admits What Trump Won't: He's Not Qualified ... Eliot A. Cohen . . . said in an interview on Tuesday that a Trump transition aide ... president but, according to his spokesman, he does not think he is qualified to run a ...


Mother of All Ambiguous statements. What's at the end of that "..."? Formula One Race Team? Dairy Farm? Global Cycle Rickshaw Courier?
Posted by DupontsCircle
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:22 pm to
Wait. I answer the question and then you try to tell me I'm wrong?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:28 pm to
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Wait. I answer the question and then you try to tell me I'm wrong?




No, I'm trying to tell you you might be becoming wrong come 1/21.

This may not be your fathers HUD any longer and, as such, Carson might be the most awesomest hire ever. Bigly even.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:28 pm to
I have friends who work in the mortgage industry as well. I don't see how Carson being named HUD secretary affects that. Things like Dodd-Frank will have a bigger impact.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:30 pm to
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Appreciate you two taking a stab at it.

HUD is a massive subsidized social engineering department. It's mission is as malleable as the CEO of the country wants it to be.

There is literally no qualification other than to be a competent manager.
I can see that you are just completely making crap up now.

Even if you wanted to "dismantle" it as some have suggested, it would take a large amount of knowledge just knowing how to get started and all of the pieces you would affect. Dr. Sleepy would be the last person I would place in that role.

Personally, I would take Dr. Carson on as an independent advisory role, but give him the freedom to investigate HUD and see where he sees areas for improvement. Tangling him up with the management of such a large operation seems like a lousy fit for his skills. Ironically, Trump would be a better fit, IMO, if there weren't so many conflicts of interest in a housing department.
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:32 pm to
HUD's mission is to make white people live next to black people next to brown people next to yellow people next to red people so close until they all randomly mate together to create a super race of grayish people.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35391 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:36 pm to
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HUD's mission is to make white people live next to black people next to brown people next to yellow people next to red people so close until they all randomly mate together to create a super race of grayish people.

Well, they do force people to not discriminate against selling or renting to minorities, but I can see your point of view as a person who doesn't like to mix communities based on race.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 9:44 pm to
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Even if you wanted to "dismantle" it as some have suggested, it would take a large amount of knowledge just knowing how to get started and all of the pieces you would affect.


I agree. I'll volunteer. I can do it coach. Put me in.
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