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re: Automation: What do we do with the truly UNSKILLED that are no longer needed?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:46 pm to Covingtontiger77
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:46 pm to Covingtontiger77
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What do we do with the truly UNSKILLED that are no longer needed?
Innovation create opportunity. Economies are ever changing and evolving. Don't assume that automation eliminating jobs leads to less opportunity for low income wages. Automation will create some low income job that none of us have even thought of to off set the jobs it replaced. It has happened throughout history and will continue to happen.
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Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:47 pm to kingbob
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Automation: What do we do with the truly UNSKILLED that are no longer needed?
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That's certainly a rosy perspective on free market-driven innovation. These new industries would likely be entertainment related, no?
No. We shouldn't focus on jobs for the unskilled. We should be focusing on why the unskilled are unskilled and how to get the unskilled the skills they need to meet the needs of the changing economy. Is it our schools not training them properly? Do they not desire skills due to cultural reasons? Is there an experience gap that's keeping them from getting the change to grow their skills
Let me first off state unequivocally that the one area where Trump is 100% correct is doing anything to keep jobs in the US. Even with the knowledge that this is merely lip service by Trump it is something labor has been saying for years and the GOP has always screamed like a mashed kitty because it was unfair....and the Democrats got on board to attract voters. Even though Trump never meant a word of what he has said on this issue he did shift the narrative.....and Democrats and companies are more talkative about made in America now..
That being said the news of the monitor company building a plant in Wisconsin is great...but at a cost to tax payer of $230K per job. That would pay for close to 6 engineering degrees.....resulting in 7800 innovators fraduating with no debt. How many good jobs would those 7800 innovators create?.
We can always find money to toss to businesses but never any for individuals......
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:47 pm to Covingtontiger77
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What do we do with the truly UNSKILLED that are no longer needed?
The same thing that was done to college educated heterosexual white males when Affirmative Action was first implemented.
Ignore them.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:50 pm to kingbob
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No. We shouldn't focus on jobs for the unskilled. We should be focusing on why the unskilled are unskilled and how to get the unskilled the skills they need to meet the needs of the changing economy. Is it our schools not training them properly? Do they not desire skills due to cultural reasons? Is there an experience gap that's keeping them from getting the change to grow their skills
The probable net result of the automation problem is that even the skilled positions will eventually be automated. The only hope your proposition has is that we'll create new industries that are AI-proof. I just don't think that's likely.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:53 pm to Hawkeye95
Let me tell you something,because you obviously don't know. Most of the companies that do any type of shipping in this country,are small time. Many don't even have loading docks I have unloaded in the front yard of a mobile home before.,all kinds of crazy shite.
I think a small segment of the trucking industry can be automated,but the majority will keep operating the way that it does right now.
I think a small segment of the trucking industry can be automated,but the majority will keep operating the way that it does right now.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:55 pm to Covingtontiger77
Soylent Green?
(Too soon?)
(Too soon?)
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:58 pm to auggie
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I might be more inclined to believe this,if I could find 1 company that can even keep the lights on their loading docks working. Or even load or unload the trucks on schedule.
You can automate the trucks all you want,but what will they do when there is no place to dock,and no place to park?
You're right. We have the technology that allows motor vehicles to drive across the country without a human driver but we'll never figure out how to get these trucks loaded.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:59 pm to germandawg
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Even with the knowledge that this is merely lip service by Trump it is something labor has been saying for years and the GOP has always screamed like a mashed kitty because it was unfair....and the Democrats got on board to attract voters.
The unions were right for the wrong reasons and so is Trump.
The unions wanted production here so that their workers would keep paying dues that the unions use to influence elections.
However, those union labor prices were expensive, causing prices to be higher. By shipping production overseas, people were out of those high-priced union jobs, but prices for those goods were lower.
By placing restraints on the market to force production here, what will determine whether or not it is successful is whether the amount of jobs added raises the average income enough to outstrip the rise in prices associated with paying those higher wages.
If I were King, I would find a middle-ground between the America-First crowd and the Free Market crowd. I would draft a model regulatory code with 3 tiers. These tiers would consist of levels like wages, environmental protections, emissions standards, workplace safety rules, purity and inspection standards, food safety, labeling, and respect for copyrights. These would set the regulatory bottom, and nations could choose to add regulations in excess of a tier.
Trade between nations of the same tier would be completely free from tariffs and unrestricted. Trade between nations of different tiers would involve a tariff on goods exported from the lower tiered country to the higher tiered one.
That way, a country with no worker protections or safety regulations wouldn't be able to flood our markets with cheap goods, and there would be an incentive for 3rd world nations to build a middle class rather than just rely on slave labor.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 2:00 pm to Covingtontiger77
First thing is STOP IMPORTING THEM BY THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS EVERY YEAR.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 2:01 pm to Covingtontiger77
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What do we do with the truly UNSKILLED that are no longer needed?
I guess you'll have to take up fishing.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 2:10 pm to Antonio Moss
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You're right. We have the technology that allows motor vehicles to drive across the country without a human driver but we'll never figure out how to get these trucks loaded.
It's so simple,why doesn't anybody just do it now?
I would be a happy man,if even 1 company could find a way to load and unload my truck swiftly and efficiently. I'm not holding my breath until anything changes either.
You think most of these companies are going to spend big money on automated systems? They won't even spend money to keep their forklifts operational....but they are going to spend hundreds of thousands on an automated loader? and then upkeep and repair?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 2:17 pm to fjlee90
Landscape management 
Posted on 7/27/17 at 2:21 pm to auggie
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It's so simple,why doesn't anybody just do it now?
I would be a happy man,if even 1 company could find a way to load and unload my truck swiftly and efficiently. I'm not holding my breath until anything changes either.
Even if with automated trucks, you could still have manually loading.
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You think most of these companies are going to spend big money on automated systems?
Um, yes. Absolutely. Installing the system means they don't have to pay a driver and can run the rucks for nearly 24 hours a day.
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They won't even spend money to keep their forklifts operational....but they are going to spend hundreds of thousands on an automated loader? and then upkeep and repair?
They'll spend it on automated driving. The loader will come thereafter.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 2:29 pm to Antonio Moss
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They'll spend it on automated driving. The loader will come thereafter.
Which trucking company do you think will be the first to buy those very expensive self driving trucks?
The shippers generally don't own trucks,they broker that out to trucking companies. Didn't you realize that?
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