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Automation: What do we do with the truly UNSKILLED that are no longer needed?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:01 pm
All, as the world starts moving towards replacing humans that perform such jobs as cashiers, fast food workers, and now auditing in real time the shelves at grocery stores, what do we do with the humans that were performing these low skill/low hourly wage positions?
I'm not talking about the high school kid working at McDs or stocking shelve for pocket money, but the bigger concern are those people that have mistaken these positions as careers rather than stop-gaps while they garner more skills or education to get a true career.
It seems that even if 90% of the people in these jobs currently have an "exit" strategy via schooling (college/trade school, whatever) that still leaves 10% of these workers that are going to have nothing to do as they are no longer necessary.
Are we destined to just have a segment of society that literally is unqualified or needed to do anything? What do we do with these folks? Guaranteed national wage?
It's going to be an interesting time these next 10-20 years as automation really is brought to the forefront.
Meet Tally:
Simbe Robotics
I'm not talking about the high school kid working at McDs or stocking shelve for pocket money, but the bigger concern are those people that have mistaken these positions as careers rather than stop-gaps while they garner more skills or education to get a true career.
It seems that even if 90% of the people in these jobs currently have an "exit" strategy via schooling (college/trade school, whatever) that still leaves 10% of these workers that are going to have nothing to do as they are no longer necessary.
Are we destined to just have a segment of society that literally is unqualified or needed to do anything? What do we do with these folks? Guaranteed national wage?
It's going to be an interesting time these next 10-20 years as automation really is brought to the forefront.
Meet Tally:
Simbe Robotics
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 1:03 pm
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Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:04 pm to Covingtontiger77
Speed bumps
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:04 pm to crewdepoo
That seems a little harsh. No one would go for the mass killing of millions. But it does raise an interesting issue, do you allow these people to continue to procreate uninhibited? As the old saying "the world needs ditch diggers too" may not hold true for much longer as I'm sure the ditch digging industry is looking for robots to replace humans as well.
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:05 pm to Covingtontiger77
It will be tough on those folks who are in the these jobs at the moment it happens, but history has shown us that there will always be a need for low wage workers.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:05 pm to Covingtontiger77
Soylent Green
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:05 pm to Covingtontiger77
There's always landscaping and construction. Gonna be a while until we get robots that can build a house or pour concrete.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:05 pm to Covingtontiger77
First we have to restructure our entitlement program where having more children is not rewarded.
Real life decisions have to have consequences. We CANNOT have unskilled, unproductive people that are supported by the government giving birth to more unskilled people.
Real life decisions have to have consequences. We CANNOT have unskilled, unproductive people that are supported by the government giving birth to more unskilled people.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:06 pm to Covingtontiger77
They could become journalists.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:08 pm to Zach
Send em to Germany
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:11 pm to Brosef Stalin
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There's always landscaping and construction. Gonna be a while until we get robots that can build a house or pour concrete
Very easy to build homes with robots....just not cost effective.
Pouring concrete has been less labor intensive for years due to technology. Take a look at airport runways. About 30" and nary a form ever needed....they can pour several hundred yards a day with 4-5 people nad a machine that forms, pours and finishes as it moves along.......you can also build roads, bridges, building slabs etc.
At some point in the near future we are going to have to seriously talk about a publicly funded stipend merely for existing. Procreation is the only reason we exist....as a species we are no different than amoebas in this.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:11 pm to Covingtontiger77
The problem is that we give them the option to not produce anything. If we didn't put up all of these insane barriers to enter into new markets and didn't create these massive incentives to stay put and avoid working and innovating, automation wouldn't be eliminating jobs, it would just be changing them. The free market would result in innovations creating entire new industries worth of work for people OR those unskilled would get with the program and learn skills.
The only reason the above doesn't happen is due to insane government interference.
The only reason the above doesn't happen is due to insane government interference.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:12 pm to TheFonz
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Soylent Green
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:14 pm to Brosef Stalin
House 3D printed in 24 hours
Still uses some laborers for the portions the robot couldn't do, but the number of workers required dropped dramatically, as did the time required and the cost
Still uses some laborers for the portions the robot couldn't do, but the number of workers required dropped dramatically, as did the time required and the cost
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:15 pm to Eli Goldfinger
I think the point of the OP is to ask what if, for the first time ever, there genuinely isn't a need for low wage workers?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:15 pm to kingbob
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The free market would result in innovations creating entire new industries worth of work for people OR those unskilled would get with the program and learn skills.
That's certainly a rosy perspective on free market-driven innovation. These new industries would likely be entertainment related, no?
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:17 pm to Covingtontiger77
Erect a colosseum and let the games begin.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:17 pm to Brosef Stalin
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There's always landscaping and construction. Gonna be a while until we get robots that can build a house or pour concrete.
They are already working on printed houses. no shite.
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What we desperately need is free birth control, including abortion to reduce population growth. We can do this NOW and it will reduce the impact in 20 years.
in the end, we are goign to have something like universal basic income.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:18 pm to Covingtontiger77
Universal Basic Income is going to soon be a requirement. 5% of the workforce their jobs are directly connected to driving, and those jobs will be gone within 20 years. That will be huge.
I'm sure we'll go kicking and screaming, but it will soon be necessary, and 100 years from now, I don't think anyone will be working unless they actually want to.
I'm sure we'll go kicking and screaming, but it will soon be necessary, and 100 years from now, I don't think anyone will be working unless they actually want to.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 1:19 pm to Covingtontiger77
Turn their hooves into glue. 
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