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re: As of today, you're a Nazi sympathizer if you believe in free speech

Posted on 8/19/17 at 3:22 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/19/17 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

while carrying torture
OK. I haven't read the thread so maybe I missed something but what the frick is "carrying torture"?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124236 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

yeah, the 2017 Unite the Right rally that these people attended:
These people?
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48571 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 3:29 pm to
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hahaha. yeah ok you do that. ask him to smite me while youre at it. in fact every christian here can do the same. we'll all witness the power of prayer together.


I like you, bro. You seem to be a hard core Leftist. If my prediction for the end of the USA in 100 years is to come true, you'll need to have some kids, raise them to think like you and make sure that they are running the USA one day in the future.

Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
27253 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 3:37 pm to
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MastrShake


What is it with liberals and the link to mental illnesses? Yours was pretty public so I'm going to deal in facts here instead of name calling, but it does seem very related to the ideaology.

I'd love to see political affiliation and that mental illness pre existing condition linked together in a study.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 3:39 pm
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 3:38 pm to
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These people?
hahaha. god damn, what a perfect illustration of either your ignorance or your outright dishonesty.

you respond to a post about Unite the Right with a link about the Free Speech Movement, who clearly state that they have nothing to do with Unite the Right.

nonetheless, you're just gonna pretend that they do anyway, because its all you have.

what do you think it says about your opinions when theyre completely built on lying?

Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 3:44 pm to
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Yours was pretty public so I'm going to deal in facts here instead of name calling, but it does seem very related to the ideaology. I'd love to see political affiliation and that mental illness pre existing condition linked together in a study.
so when you say, "I'm going to deal in facts", you mean that youre gonna ask a rhetorical question and then bail?

well, wow, you really got me good. well played. those facts were just devastating to my views.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261897 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 3:58 pm to
I'd rather live under the sword of Islam than totalitarian progressive socialism. Government has killed far more people than Islam
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124236 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 4:04 pm to
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you respond to a post about Unite the Right with a link about the Free Speech Movement,
You're lost.

Your response makes it tempting to really put screws to you in retort. But as you're confused, I'll give you room to straighten yourself out.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 4:13 pm to
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OK. I haven't read the thread so maybe I missed something but what the frick is "carrying torture"?



autocorrect....for the loss ;-)
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124236 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 4:17 pm to
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what the frick is "carrying torture"?



autocorrect....for the loss ;-)
Considering the atrocious record of the groups in question, "carrying torture" may have been Siri's Freudian slip.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 4:24 pm to
H.E. Pennypacker, the wealthy industrialist?
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
23681 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 5:51 pm to
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under the 1stA, they have right to free speech

this COULD apply... not saying that it does, i'm saying it could...

Words which would likely make the person whom they are addressed commit an act of violence. Fighting words are a category of speech that is unprotected by the First Amendment. Chaplinsky v New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568

Chaplinsky still remains viable for the principle that ''the States are free to ban the simple use, without a demonstration of additional justifying circumstances, of so-called 'fighting words,' those personally abusive epithets which, when addressed to the ordinary citizen, are, as a matter of common knowledge, inherently likely to provoke violent reaction.'

-In Beauharnais v. Illinois, 104 relying on dicta in past cases, 105 the Court upheld a state group libel law which made it unlawful to defame a race or class of people.

in New York Times Co. v. Sullivan. 109 In R. A. V. v. City of St. Paul, the Court, in an opinion by Justice Scalia, explained and qualified the categorical exclusions for defamation, obscenity, and fighting words. These categories of speech are not ''entirely invisible to the Constitution,'' but instead ''can, consistently with the First Amendment, be regulated because of their constitutionally proscribable content.'' 110 Content discrimination unrelated to that ''distinctively proscribable content'' runs afoul of the First Amendment. Therefore, the city's bias-motivated crime ordinance, interpreted as banning the use of fighting words known to offend on the basis of race, color, creed, religion, or gender, but not on such other possible bases as political affiliation, union membership, or homosexuality, was invalidated for its content discrimination. ''The First Amendment does not permit [the city] to impose special prohibitions on those speakers who express views on disfavored subjects.'' 111
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124236 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:10 pm to
quote:

under the 1stA, they have right to free speech

this COULD apply... not saying that it does,
I presume we are talking about Charlottesville, not the KKK in general. As such, as nauseating as it is, they were given a permit to hold their event.

And by corollary, Antifa/BLM were not.



Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
68363 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

I'd rather live under the sword of Islam than totalitarian progressive socialism.


If you convert and are a man, it would be better.

How many wives would you get?
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
11049 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:16 pm to
quote:

War is peace

Freedom is slavery

Ignorance is strength
Learn, Understand, Accept.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124236 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:20 pm to
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How many wives would you get?
Many

Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25391 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:26 pm to
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a group with 2,000 years of well documented sexism, bigotry, and racism, all enforced with officially sanctioned violence and murder.
So for 2000 years nothing can stop it...sounds like they are Superior in every way
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39594 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:27 pm to
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Was free speech involved when they postured with weapons across the street from charlottesville synagogue?


Well, the British were certainly not pleased with colonial governors denouncing the king and declaring war on england, but one man's treason is another man's revolution.

Free speech isn't free of it has conditions, dick face
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34861 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:34 pm to
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They were all like me as well...at one point in time they voted straight D
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68363 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:37 pm to
sweet

and just think how much better the roads will be without all of those women drivers

we could also get away with taking them out of the voting booth

and those ANITFA infidels, we'd get them cleaned up with the quickness
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