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Posted on 2/25/17 at 3:50 pm to Jake88
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What is the financial incentive?
Not sure if you're being serious here.
If more people are in prisons more prisons are needed, thus your business model expands.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 3:51 pm to DavidTheGnome
Not unless you are for the continued criminalization of non-violent behavior and scandals like the kids for cash...government is not like a business...it makes sense to privatize or outsource to private companies some functions of government...but not the incarceration of people.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 3:51 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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You think they don't profit from this as well?
I agree which is why by and large there's just crickets from the left over this. But I haven't seen many opposing it threads here either though, so just wondering if either side is going to push back. I think this is the excact opposite of draining the swamp.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 3:52 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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No such thing
Youre illuminating your ignorance with a statement like that
This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 2/25/17 at 3:53 pm to Powerman
States are not out there building prisons regularly. In fact they are cutting people loose early.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 3:53 pm to DavidTheGnome
Anything to keep predators off the streets
This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 2/25/17 at 3:54 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Yoire illuminating your ignorance with a statement like that
Posted on 2/25/17 at 3:55 pm to tiderider
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trump could fart and his trumpettes would spend 12 hours analyzing it for its "10d chess" insinuations ... there's not a conservative one among them - they'd give him dictatorial powers in a heartbeat if they could ...
Trump doesnt have to build a wall, all he has to do is tweet out he did build it, same effect.
The private prison deal is pure fricking politics, the biggest player paid for Trumps inauguration so guess what? the US is back in the private prison biz, maga
Posted on 2/25/17 at 3:58 pm to Jake88
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States are not out there building prisons regularly. In fact they are cutting people loose early.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 4:01 pm to Jake88
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What is the financial incentive?
The financial incentive is that the private companies invest a lot of money in these prisons and they get paid per prisoner. They make a buck when someone is there, not when they aren't.
America is the most incarcerated nation on earth as a percentage of its population. Is that because we break laws more than anyone else?
Posted on 2/25/17 at 4:01 pm to Jake88
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proof?
From Forbes-Judge gets 28 years in Cash for Kids scandal
Private prisons bribe judges to jail more inmates--Ex-Guard speaks out
This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 4:04 pm
Posted on 2/25/17 at 4:02 pm to Lakeboy7
Yeah, that's why everytime I'm in court I see people facing new charges that have all manner of violent charges in their past that they served only a fraction of the time they should have.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 4:06 pm to toddzilla
So two judges and they all do it "without fail."
And an ex-guard, turned activist. Yep, that's proof it's all crap.
And an ex-guard, turned activist. Yep, that's proof it's all crap.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 4:08 pm to Jake88
No. I hate the idea of private prisons for many reasons already stated.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 4:08 pm to Jake88
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States are not out there building prisons regularly.
increase in prisons from 90s to 2005.
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In fact they are cutting people loose early.
The intent is to cut non violent drug offenders loose early due to prison over crowding. The issue is that when they release these people there is no real help for them.
Prison is now a revolving door to keep bad people locked up (for profit) instead of trying to reform/rehabilitate them. It's a viscous cycle that creates a good profit margin for some. In the same light, society rarely give these people a true second chance which in turn pushes them back in to their old habits. I don't pity criminals, but drug addiction is a disease. It should be treated as such instead of ruining someone's entire life because of something like smoking weed.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 4:11 pm to Jake88
So we need more prisons? more cops more judges more DAs?
What we are doing is not working
What we are doing is not working
Posted on 2/25/17 at 4:13 pm to Lakeboy7
Yes. More prisons. I'm not stuck on it being privately run, as I said, GEO has a sorry history.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 4:15 pm to Robin Masters
How can you make a case for the idea of private prisons. They literally profit from keeping people in prison whether they deserve to be there or not.
Posted on 2/25/17 at 4:22 pm to Tiger Tracker
What is a nonviolent offender? Do any of these studies bother to look at the RAP sheet for these offenders? Do they look at the plea deals that got charges dropped or pled down? Do they look at what the prior two strikes were? Or, as is more likely, they look only at the instant offense.
Head down to Hunt, DCI and Angola and tell me about all the nonviolent offenders.
Head down to Hunt, DCI and Angola and tell me about all the nonviolent offenders.
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