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Are nukes the greatest and worst thing to ever happen in global affairs?
Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:38 am
Posted on 4/15/17 at 1:38 am
Because of their existence and the utter devastation they would bring to the world, every major power in the world will do whatever they can to avoid a WWIII because it would be quick and the end of civilization as we know it.
By that same token, the amount of anxiety that stems from their creation has everyone on edge.
I don't know, just food for thought. The entire world saw what the A-bomb wrought and because of it, it seems like there will never be another all-out global war, rather a bunch of shadow strikes and small skirmishes to "keep the peace".
By that same token, the amount of anxiety that stems from their creation has everyone on edge.
I don't know, just food for thought. The entire world saw what the A-bomb wrought and because of it, it seems like there will never be another all-out global war, rather a bunch of shadow strikes and small skirmishes to "keep the peace".
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:04 am to Broski
I just recently finished a fictional series on netlfix about post apocalyptic earth after a global nuclear missile strike and the radiation from it is still soaking Earth 150 years later and making it damn near inhabitable. And it got me thinking about nukes. It's show on CW called the 100. You can have your opinions about the quality of the plot and characters and present storylines but the central premise is clear.
I understand that nukes hold a shite ton of value as deterrents as a means of keeping the peace on the global scale and is also a very good tool of bringing bloody wars to a very swift and decisive end like we did with Japan.
But the fact is that as long as nuclear weapons exist, they still hold the ability to completely destroy humanity as we know it or at least completely destroy the modern industrialized human race and send us back to the stone ages to a point where it would take us thousands of years to get back to where we are today.
it doesn't take much for that to happen whether it be rogue criminal actors stealing nukes, an out of control government on the war path, or some glitchy computer program that we can't stop in time.
I hope to god North Korea isn't that out of control government.
I understand that nukes hold a shite ton of value as deterrents as a means of keeping the peace on the global scale and is also a very good tool of bringing bloody wars to a very swift and decisive end like we did with Japan.
But the fact is that as long as nuclear weapons exist, they still hold the ability to completely destroy humanity as we know it or at least completely destroy the modern industrialized human race and send us back to the stone ages to a point where it would take us thousands of years to get back to where we are today.
it doesn't take much for that to happen whether it be rogue criminal actors stealing nukes, an out of control government on the war path, or some glitchy computer program that we can't stop in time.
I hope to god North Korea isn't that out of control government.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:07 am to Sentrius
I mean do we not have any fricking lasers that can blast that shite out of the sky?
If it ever comes to Nuking, I severely doubt it will be a world ending phenomenon. I would think one or two from each party would be enough to bring about a ceasefire. I would hope at least
If it ever comes to Nuking, I severely doubt it will be a world ending phenomenon. I would think one or two from each party would be enough to bring about a ceasefire. I would hope at least
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:12 am to Broski
When we invented nuclear weapons, we literally stole power that was exclusively reserved for God himself.
If ever used to their full potential, nuclear weapons represent the death of modern, advanced, and industrialized humanity and a one way ticket back to the stone ages for several thousand years if enough humans are lucky enough to survive.
If ever used to their full potential, nuclear weapons represent the death of modern, advanced, and industrialized humanity and a one way ticket back to the stone ages for several thousand years if enough humans are lucky enough to survive.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:14 am to WicKed WayZ
quote:the problem with this is that nuclear weapons, at least icbms, have progressed to where that once the rockets start to reenter the earths atmosphere, they break up into many different nuclear warheads. so one large nuclear missile becomes 8 smaller ones and at that point, it just doesnt make sense from an economic standpoint to have systems that could possibly shoot all of those down. its more cost effective to load up with nuclear weapons on your own and just use MAD as your nuclear defense
I mean do we not have any fricking lasers that can blast that shite out of the sky?
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:16 am to WestCoastAg
and while nuclear weapons are necessary in todays world and have obviously been the center role in all of the major powers in the world from avoiding conflict over the past 70 years, they do ultimately pose the single largest threat for the destruction of civilization in my opinion and I ultimately wish we lived in a world without them
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 2:18 am
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:17 am to Sentrius
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If ever used to their full potential, nuclear weapons represent the death of modern, advanced, and industrialized humanity and a one way ticket back to the stone ages for several thousand years if enough humans are lucky enough to survive.
And I think everybody realizes this, even NK, which is why they are basically a overpowered waving dick/bargaining chip that will never be used.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:26 am to Broski
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t seems like there will never be another all-out global war, rather a bunch of shadow strikes and small skirmishes to "keep the peace".
I sort of think this will happen. Technology will continue to consume warfare to the point where actual fighting ceases to exist. Wars will be fought by hackers and engineers much in the same way the Cold War was. It will never end as long as both sides remain on relatively the same technological level.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:21 pm to Broski
In the last 100 years, Communism vs Nukes?
Posted on 4/15/17 at 2:22 pm to Broski
Greatest
Have saved a lot of American lives (as well as others) as a deterrent
Have saved a lot of American lives (as well as others) as a deterrent
Posted on 4/15/17 at 3:06 pm to Broski
I wonder how many ICBMs there are total? Ready to go?
How many do we have and Russia?
How many others there are? What countries?
What have the numbers done since the Cold War arms race? Where each had enough to destroy the other 20 times over.
How many do we have and Russia?
How many others there are? What countries?
What have the numbers done since the Cold War arms race? Where each had enough to destroy the other 20 times over.
Posted on 4/15/17 at 7:05 pm to LSU alum wannabe
How cost efficient are they to produce?
Posted on 4/15/17 at 7:54 pm to Broski
Had Nuclear weapons not been invented, there would have been at least one more large scale international war since the end of WWII. Probably the US/Western Europe/Japan/India vs Russia/China/Latin America. It would have been ugly and there's no telling how it would have ended.
Nuclear Weapons and International Trade have (knock wood) likely ended war on the scale of WWI and WWII
Nuclear Weapons and International Trade have (knock wood) likely ended war on the scale of WWI and WWII
Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:04 pm to dpd901
These are good points however with nukes and trade there have still been some massive amounts of death in the world since Hiroshima.
Just no world wars. Africa and the Middle East
Just no world wars. Africa and the Middle East
Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:14 pm to Broski
Good post and I promise I'm not trying to derail it, but I'm curious. Are there other weapons being developed that are even more destructive than a nuclear bomb? Or would a new bomb simply be a more destructive nuclear weapon than the ones that already exist?
Posted on 4/15/17 at 11:29 pm to Sentrius
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But the fact is that as long as nuclear weapons exist, they still hold the ability to completely destroy humanity as we know it or at least completely destroy the modern industrialized human race and send us back to the stone ages to a point where it would take us thousands of years to get back to where we are today.
Everyone always says this like it would be so. Only it wouldn't. Knowledge would still exist. There would still be libraries. It would devastate the norther hemisphere but most of the southern would remain completely intact.
There would even likely be whole countries who would suffer little to no ill effects.
Australia and New Zealand would likely be basically untouched by an all out nuclear war. Most of Southern Africa would remain out of the fray.
South America would fair well too.
Sure they would all get some fallout but nothing like the countries in the northern hemisphere.
Doomsday scenarios are usually grossly exaggerated as far as all of mankind being wiped out or sent back to the Stone Age. It just wouldn't happen.
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 11:32 pm
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