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re: Apparently Trump believes that gains to the stock market go towards the national debt

Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:53 pm to
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Isn't Paul Krugman a big champion of this general notion with regard to the national debt?


Only if it is growth due to a wave of a magic wand.


Actual growth is only grudgingly tolerated.
Posted by Giant Leaf
On Leaf
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:53 pm to
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What was the purpose of his comment? Read between the lines for us and tell us what he's trying to convey to you.



The purpose of his comment is that a good economy in the United States is good for the United States

There. Do you get it now?

Its not complex stuff
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13495 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:53 pm to
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Read between the lines for us and tell us what he's trying to convey to you.

What? You don't have a Trump secret decoder ring?

Well there's your problem! You're trying to use the DNC/MSM Political Complex read between the lines to slander your opposition guide!
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:57 pm to
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The purpose of his comment is that a good economy in the United States is good for the United States


I mean it seems patently obvious to me, but I'm not suffering from a syndrome - at least none I'm aware of offhand.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:57 pm to
Frankly Trump doesn't look bad in this instance, in my opinion; it's Hannity that looks terrible. Trump may legitimately believe that the stock market directly impacts the debt, but I doubt that.

But instead of getting clarification, whether he meant that, he meant GDP growth, he meant the stock market will allow for more investment leading to more economic growth, or whatever, Hannity just accepts a statement as fact and moves on.

We know Hannity is a shill for Trump, but one can still support an interviewee, and still get clarification. Instead he's either too much of a shill, lacks the ability to ask for clarification or additional information, or some combination of both.
Posted by GFaceKillah
Welcome to the Third World
Member since Nov 2005
5935 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:58 pm to
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But we’re very honored by it


What does this even mean?
Posted by bobby_3_sticks
Member since Oct 2017
245 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:59 pm to
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In your opinion which scenario is easier to live under?

Income $100,000 per year, $100,000 in debt and assets of $200,000.

Income of $100,000 per year, $100,000 in debt and assets of $100,000.

holy shite lot of retarding in this thread.

if the stock market going up reduced the national debt, obama would be king of reducing the debt. Stock market averaged 14% growth per year under obama.

The stock market going up is good news. It is good for a variety of reasons, but it has zero to do with national debt.

Now, if people realize those gains then maybe there is an uptick in receipts from capital gains. But that would just reduce the deficit, not the debt. And again, you would have seen that under obama too.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:59 pm to
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The purpose of his comment is that a good economy in the United States is good for the United States


Were talking about his comments comparing the debt to GDP, dumbass. Which he would've left out if all he was trying to say is what you said. Nobody questions the benefit of a strong economy.

Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:59 pm to
double post, delete.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 3:03 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140394 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 2:59 pm to
Meh, he could have been up against a hard break too and just decided to move on.

Who knows, right?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118761 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:07 pm to
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"Comparing the national debt level to GDP is akin to a person comparing the amount of their personal debt in relation to the value of the goods or services that they produce for their employer in a given year. Clearly, this is not the way one would establish their own personal budget, nor is it the way that the federal government should evaluate its fiscal operations."



However it is a way that you can acquire or maintain better cost of debt and/or avoid going into further debt.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 3:13 pm
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10530 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:08 pm to
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The country—we took it over


Stopped reading at this point.

The idiot isn't even masking what he believes his role as president is.

Keep your guns folks. The fascist nutjob is coming for ya.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20212 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:11 pm to
CommoDawg is butthurt and he knows it!
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
5637 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:14 pm to
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holy shite lot of retarding in this thread.

if the stock market going up reduced the national debt, obama would be king of reducing the debt. Stock market averaged 14% growth per year under obama.

The stock market going up is good news. It is good for a variety of reasons, but it has zero to do with national debt.

Now, if people realize those gains then maybe there is an uptick in receipts from capital gains. But that would just reduce the deficit, not the debt. And again, you would have seen that under obama too.


THIS.

Which is exactly why I called this phantom connection spin.
Posted by old man tiger
Member since Feb 2009
2383 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:15 pm to
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The idiot isn't even masking what he believes his role as president is.


So much disrespect in this country.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90598 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:16 pm to
Increasing economic value lowers the debt to GDP ratio so he is correct. It doesn't pay down debt owed, but it lessens the significance of said debt.
Posted by Giant Leaf
On Leaf
Member since Nov 2015
4229 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:16 pm to
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Which is exactly why I called this phantom connection spin.



Where is all this spin

He was asked in a fast based interview a question

He said "maybe in a sense" the economy being good helping the debt and that is a correct assessment

And we have idiots here making something out of it that does not exist

My god you people have gone off the deep end

Posted by old man tiger
Member since Feb 2009
2383 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:17 pm to
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Increasing economic value lowers the debt to GDP ratio so he is correct. It doesn't pay down debt owed, but it lessens the significance of said debt.


Correct answer sir.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 10/12/17 at 3:19 pm to
Grasp at those straws mother fricker.

When the economy grows the debt will be reduced because more taxes will be paid.
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