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Anyone here familiar with the 50 year rage cycle?
Posted on 5/31/22 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 5/31/22 at 9:39 pm
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Circa 1870, the North fought the South in the Civil War. Half a century later, around 1920, worker unrest, racial tensions and anti-Communist sentiment caused another nationwide upsurge of violence. Then, 50 years later, the Vietnam War and Civil Rights Movement triggered a third peak in violent political, social and racial conflict. Fifty years after that will be 2020. If history continues to repeat itself, we can expect a violent upheaval in the United States in a few years
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But we might not be so lucky this time around. If Turchin's model is right, then the current polarization and inequality in American society will come to a head in 2020. "After the last eight years or so, notice how the discourse in our political class has become fragmented. It's really unprecedented for the last 100 years," he said. "So basically by all measures, there are social pressures for instability that are much worse than 50 years ago."
It might be worth noting that this article is from 2012. Of course they had no prior knowledge of the pandemic lockdowns and BLM movement adding fuel to the fire. But perhaps an uptick in violence was inevitable.
Live science article from August 2012
Posted on 5/31/22 at 9:49 pm to Powerman
The problem is exaggerated because large financial interests want instability. They may get more than the bargained for.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 9:51 pm to Tigers2010a
It's somewhat interesting to think that these patterns might have some inevitability to them though.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 9:55 pm to Powerman
Generally speaking, every 2nd generation repeats the mistakes of the past because they lack first-hand knowledge. About every 2 decades, hard-learned lessons are often forgotten or not deemed worthy to pass on. It’s a failure of humanity.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 9:57 pm to Powerman
I could go for a boogaloo.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 9:58 pm to Powerman
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2012
2012 and 2020 are not that far apart, we also had bill gates telling us a pandemic was coming in 2015. All seems too calculated to be coincidence
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:00 pm to burke985
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2012 and 2020 are not that far apart, we also had bill gates telling us a pandemic was coming in 2015. All seems too calculated to be coincidence
If you read the article the 50 year cycle is just a smaller part of larger cycles. In older societies there are more intense 200 and 300 year cycles.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:01 pm to Powerman
Sounds interesting but ultimately means ... n o t h i n g.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:03 pm to TexanTiger68
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Sounds interesting but ultimately means ... n o t h i n g.
It might actually mean something though since there seems to be an actual pattern
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:03 pm to Powerman
dumb, and kind of stretching it with the 1920's description. By that metric, you could say that any era is a 'rage' cycle.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:05 pm to ScottFowler
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Fourth Turning...
This is what immediately came to mind.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:08 pm to burke985
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2012 and 2020 are not that far apart
On a 50 year time line 8 years is pretty significant
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:11 pm to ScottFowler
quote:Tim Pool listener…
Fourth Turning...
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:19 pm to Powerman
This sounds kind of like the "hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak me, weak men create hard times" cycle.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:22 pm to Perfect Circle
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This sounds kind of like the "hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak me, weak men create hard times" cycle.
Perhaps
And the guy that published the paper mentioned that there is definitely a generational relationship going on here
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:24 pm to Powerman
I’d say tension isn’t as high amongst the people. The vast majority of people just wanna be able to live unbothered.
The tension is between the gubment and the people
The tension is between the gubment and the people
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:47 pm to Powerman
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Circa 1870, the North fought the South in the Civil War.
Stupid me! I was taught that the Civil war was fought 1861-1865. I knew I shouldn't have believed those conservative teachers in the 50's and early sixties. Of course thats before the left's revisionist history.
Posted on 5/31/22 at 10:57 pm to Powerman
Well to start the Civil War was not in 1870 so your timeline is off
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