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re: Anybody remember when RUssia hacked the election?

Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72694 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 1:49 pm to
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We're talking about cybersecurity. And in the cybersecurity world, a successful phish is considered hacking. Along with a major security incident.


I love watching these people pretend that they know anything about this, especially Air Force Tornado himself.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:01 pm to
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you keep ignoring that the only report based on actual data or hardware was made by Crowdstrike.

All other reports flow from that initial report.

That initial report was downgraded, by Crowdstrike, from MID to LOW confidence
So last night I said it was REASONABLE that they were involved in the hacking of the left during the campaign. I didn't argue it certain, likely, or even more likely than not--just REASONABLE.

And I supported this reasonableness with:

1. DNI report
2. Article highlighting Russia has a top country for hacking, dating back multiple years
3. A bunch of other evidence (Wikileaks connections, Russian history, etc.).

And now you are even acknowledging another piece of evidence, even if it's tentative at best.

YET, with all of that information you have audacity to sit there and insult people because they think Russia was involved, not even that, think that Russia a reasonable suspect?

YET, you have provided any evidence to indicate why that it is not reasonable, except for insults.

I may be a hack, but you have no room to talk.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38330 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 2:55 pm to
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I love watching these people pretend that they know anything about this, especially Air Force Tornado himself.


You've been bought, trained and made to think just how the US government wanted you to. No one respects a man that can't think for himself.

God that's got to suck..being the property of the US government.

Yikes
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72694 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 3:08 pm to
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You've been bought, trained and made to think just how the US government wanted you to. No one respects a man that can't think for himself.

God that's got to suck..being the property of the US government.

Yikes


Yeah, it must suck being me.

Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4487 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 4:13 pm to
Without reading the entire thread, let's play a little game, buckeye.

Let's assume the Russians did leak emails like you said in the beginning of this thread.

Have the dems claimed any of the information released to be untrue?

So the Russians did what our media should have been doing. I am ok with that.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 4:20 pm to
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Without reading the entire thread, let's play a little game, buckeye.

Let's assume the Russians did leak emails like you said in the beginning of this thread.
OK.
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Have the dems claimed any of the information released to be untrue?
No. And since it was available, I don't think one should be expected to ignore it. But that's not what we are discussing here.
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So the Russians did what our media should have been doing. I am ok with that.
I don't expect our media to illegally TAKE information. If it's provided to them, fine. So I'm not sure what you mean by "what they should have been doing."

Of course, just like the illegal leaks. I don't think the media should be illegally accessing the information, but I don't expect them to ignore it when it's given to them.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72694 posts
Posted on 8/4/17 at 6:41 pm to
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I am ok with that.


Of course you are. Most of you are.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/4/17 at 6:52 pm to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72694 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 8:16 am to
Bump.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39575 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 8:26 am to
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It means I find it reasonable to conclude that Russia may have been behind the Podesta emails hack and/or leak. They seem like one of the reasonable suspects at least.


Them or about 4 million trolls on Reddit.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
76563 posts
Posted on 8/5/17 at 8:30 am to
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A successful phish is considered hacking.
No, that's social engineering.

You can phish over the phone, without using a computer.

Phishing is hacking? Come on, man.

You are trying to conflate the terms to strain your stance into an area of honesty. Just stop

You don't need to have any computer skills to be a phisher. Just need to be a good liar.
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 8:36 am
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