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re: Another teen shot by cops in Missouri - close to Ferguson
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:40 pm to StrongSafety
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:40 pm to StrongSafety
You don't think robbing a store and commuting battery in the process speaks to a person's character? You don't think that that's an indication of bad character?
If you don't, you're either just trying to win an argument or you're warped and unaware of that fact.
If you don't, you're either just trying to win an argument or you're warped and unaware of that fact.
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:42 pm to StrongSafety
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I don't see anyone here calling those kids thugs and TPOS when they drink and drive and kill their friends, Rob and loot from stores, committ credit card fraud, rape unconscious girls at college parties, etc. They usually just have the resources to run away or deal with their problems, and we as a society excuse them for it.
Earth to SS. Give your uncontrollable FEAR a rest for a day. Come back Friday. You will feel better and you won't have to be "that guy" who was trying WAY too hard on Christmas Eve. Step back . Deep Breath. Find a white person. Say hello. Exhale. You are going to be ok. Nobody wants to hurt you. You are amongst friends. Relax.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:43 pm to StrongSafety
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I don't see anyone here calling those kids thugs and TPOS when they drink and drive and kill their friends, Rob and loot from stores, committ credit card fraud, rape unconscious girls at college parties, etc. They usually just have the resources to run away or deal with their problems, and we as a society excuse them for it.
I think you're seeing what you want to see.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:50 pm to StrongSafety
bullshite. When people post of drunk drivers on this site those drivers are roundly lambasted as pieces of shite. You're not paying attention or just ignore it to make your foolish argument.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 3:53 pm to Jake88
quote:Agree with this.
bullshite. When people post of drunk drivers on this site those drivers are roundly lambasted as pieces of shite. You're not paying attention or just ignore it to make your foolish argument.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:01 pm to StrongSafety
quote:
You guys just read what you want to rea(d)
You are one of those people who after reading the handwriting on the wall claims the handwriting is a forgery because you don't like the truth it says.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:02 pm to StrongSafety
Blaming an entire race of people for any of the world's problems is laughable. And let's not forget the fact that it's distinct from blaming an ideology or some type of cultural construct.
If you really think there is systemic, widespread persecution of minorities in this country in 2014 and that this primarily relates to what has transpired in Ferguson or New York, you are likely just too ignorant of history to be able to have a meaningful perspective.
If you really think there is systemic, widespread persecution of minorities in this country in 2014 and that this primarily relates to what has transpired in Ferguson or New York, you are likely just too ignorant of history to be able to have a meaningful perspective.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:05 pm to Lou Pai
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it's distinct from blaming an ideology
Ten years I've tried to make this point.
And still no luck.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:11 pm to StrongSafety
quote:
I don't see anyone here calling those kids thugs and TPOS when they drink and drive and kill their friends, Rob and loot from stores, committ credit card fraud, rape unconscious girls at college parties, etc. They usually just have the resources to run away or deal with their problems, and we as a society excuse them for it.
Can't see why we then why we are so quick to indict the characters of kids with less than those privileged kids
Bitter and intellectually dishonest. No one defends these people and you know it.
Even operating under the assumption that it's true, what does it say about you to make such a complaint?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:26 pm to StrongSafety
quote:
I've definitely seen kids do worse than take some items from
A gas station and escape with their lives and move on to be successful and productive adults.
All the kids at my university that used to steal and loot from our cafeteria would get punished with community service or with forced cleaning service of the university ground. College really just told me that the only difference between the privileged and the non privileged is resources to get out of trouble: mental health, education, health, etc.
If you really believe all the crap you're posting in this thread, then you should have also learned one other very important truth:
if you do not have the resources of the privileged, then you shouldn't do those things that are going to get your arse in hot water.
By your standards, I'd say I grew up in a privileged home. Dad worked. Mom stayed home and took care of the kids. If I so much as talked back to a teacher, my arse would get lit up when dad got home. We were taught right from wrong and to respect authority. That didn't mean agreeing with authority - just respecting it.
Sorry, but I have no sympathy for a man who robs a convenience store then assaults a cop and ends up dead as a result. I also have no sympathy for a man who aims a gun at a cop and ends up dead as a result. I do weep for the thousands, if not millions, of kids whose parents are at this very moment teaching their children that Michael Brown is some kind of martyr for the cause. Those kids will grow up bitter and with little to no respect for the law, and their lives will suffer because of it.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:37 pm to StrongSafety
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Poor behavior shouldn't be an indictment of someone's character.
Really?!?! Lulz
What exactly WOULD be an indictment on character in your honest, expert opinion? Please enlighten us.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:39 pm to StrongSafety
quote:
I don't see anyone here calling those kids thugs and TPOS when they drink and drive and kill their friends, Rob and loot from stores, committ credit card fraud, rape unconscious girls at college parties, etc. They usually just have the resources to run away or deal with their problems, and we as a society excuse them for it.
Can't see why we then why we are so quick to indict the characters of kids with less than those privileged kids
Actually, in the past few years the child of a prominent family in my town was prosecuted pretty heavily for some of the things you mentioned above, and he served as an example to the rest of the community. It was awkward, because the rest of the family is very straight-laced, and it was a shock. But to your point, all children of privilege are not immune to the criminal justice system.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:46 pm to StrongSafety
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Poor behavior shouldn't be an indictment of someone's character.
I'll give you that isolated poor decision-making shouldn't be a full indictment of someone's character, but a pattern of bad behavior is certainly indicative of a person's character.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 4:59 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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the potential repercussions of teaching this to black kids from their earliest years.
my parents did
its not even a race thing is socio economics
black people in the middle class suburbs dont have these problems. Hood rats will be hood rats like white trash will be white trash.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 5:32 pm to ChineseBandit58
You have to wonder how poorly trained the officers out there are or if they are intentionally avoiding being recorded. Wilson turned the sound off on his dash can. Now this guy was given a body can before he went on patrol but took it off. Also he didn't activate his lights which kept the dash can off.
The video we do see is difficult to see, and looks more like the guy is pointing (as in finger) rather than pointing a gun. The cop stumbles, falls back but sqeezes off 3 shots. The other guy never fires the gun he is supposedly aiming at the officer.
Maybe suicide by cop, but why give the cops any option to turn off the cameras / take off the body cams?
The video we do see is difficult to see, and looks more like the guy is pointing (as in finger) rather than pointing a gun. The cop stumbles, falls back but sqeezes off 3 shots. The other guy never fires the gun he is supposedly aiming at the officer.
Maybe suicide by cop, but why give the cops any option to turn off the cameras / take off the body cams?
Posted on 12/24/14 at 5:36 pm to mmcgrath
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Wilson turned the sound off on his dash can.
Uh. No.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 5:49 pm to StrongSafety
quote:Sure, people can MOVE ON to become better people. That doesn't change that when they were committing the acts, they weren't good people.
A gas station and escape with their lives and move on to be successful and productive adults.
quote:While stealing is bad regardless, that you equate the stealing you cite with strong arming an owner as if you have some sort of right to his shite is telling.
All the kids at my university that used to steal and loot from our cafeteria would get punished with community service or with forced cleaning service of the university ground.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 5:50 pm to StrongSafety
quote:Yes. His character is ABSOLUTELY indicted by his behavior that day.
Should it be an the indictment and verdict of Browns character ?
Holy frick man. What he might be in 10 years is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to what his character was at that given time.
Good God, this is retarded as shite.
Posted on 12/24/14 at 5:52 pm to StrongSafety
quote:No, I wouldn't use "thug" in that situation. It aint good, but "thug" doesn't really apply there.
drink and drive
quote:I call that thieves. "Thug" tends to apply to how you interact with others.
Rob and loot from stores
quote:THAT is definitely "thug". Although I'd probably use WORSE terms.
rape unconscious girls at college parties, et
quote:That is completely a figment of your imagination.
Can't see why we then why we are so quick to indict the characters of kids with less than those privileged kids
Posted on 12/24/14 at 5:52 pm to StrongSafety
Have you seen the video of the cop falling back and firing? He drops his service piece in the process and his first instinct is to run away with his head down looking for cover behind the gas pumps because he didn't know if he had incapacitated Martin. Why would he do that if Martin didn't have a gun? Cop was running for his damn life.
Does that register anything to you?
ETA on second viewing may be a flashlight he dropped. Hard to tell. Point stands either way.
Does that register anything to you?
ETA on second viewing may be a flashlight he dropped. Hard to tell. Point stands either way.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 5:58 pm
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