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re: Another teen shot by cops in Missouri - close to Ferguson

Posted on 12/24/14 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 5:53 pm to
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You don't think robbing a store and commuting battery in the process speaks to a person's character? You don't think that that's an indication of bad character?

If you don't, you're either just trying to win an argument or you're warped and unaware of that fact.



If it's not an indication of one's character, then there's no such thing as character.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18662 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 7:58 pm to
Why should the officer have to lose his life do the person who chose to put both of them in this situation may become a productive citizen? The officer already is a productive citizen
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:33 pm to
Killing it in the threads Gulf.
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11004 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:41 pm to
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no such thing as character



You're showing your character.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20209 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:07 pm to
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mtntiger


Solid post on page 9!!! Big time up-vote!
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:09 pm to
Think I might have an idea why the cop didn't get shot:

Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
98893 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:21 pm to
Lucky for the cop. Thug had the drop on him, but was too stupid to take the safety off.

#coplivesmatter
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:23 pm to
Wow. So we are back in this situation with the insurgents because the safety being engaged gave the cop enough time to pull or he'd have died there last night.

Unreal.
This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:23 pm to
I would take being lucky over good evey time.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111508 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:06 pm to
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not an indication of one's character, then there's no such thing as character.


Here's some more indications of his character.
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BERKELEY, MO (KTVI) – Court records show the man shot and killed in the December 23rd Berkeley Police shooting served jail time when he was 17.

Berkeley Police arrested him in May for armed criminal action, but that case is still under review at the St. Louis County Prosecutor’s Office. Antonio D Martin pleaded guilty twice, for lesser crimes. One plea involved a crime he committed just four days after his 17th birthday, a misdemeanor assault. The report says Martin and another person attacked someone in front of a Job Corp teacher.

Less than a month later, the 17 year the admitted he stole from a woman eating outside of Mariachi`s II restaurant on Gravois. Martin spent a total of 30 days in jail for both crimes.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:25 pm to
Can't judge him.

Can't judge his character.

Can't judge his intent at the scene.

Must give him the benifit of any and all doubts.

Must do the opposite of all of this for the officer, though.



This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 10:28 pm
Posted by StrangeBrew
Salvation Army-Thanks Obama
Member since May 2009
18183 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:26 pm to
He was a good kid about to turn his life around. If he really meant that cop harm he would has disengaged the safety.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 10:27 pm to
quote:

Can't judge him.

Can't judge his character.

Can't judge his intent at the scene.

Must give him the benifit of any and all doubts.

Must do the opposite of all of this for the officer


I think you summed up StrongSafety's argument quite nicely.
Posted by Orphan
south of nowhere
Member since Aug 2008
952 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 7:22 am to
That was an up vote not down, damn iPad......
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 8:10 am to
You're skewing whaT I said; I clearly stated that this kid has some major character issues due to his litany of arrests that we know about--can't say the same for MB.

And personally, with the way cops have been acting as of late, they have a lot of the benefit of the doubt in my eyes. From an outsiders perspective, their badge means doesn't shield them from being corrupt liars. Their history with black Americans supports that notion.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 8:20 am to
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Of course, it's newsworthy because as is the norm, a couple of the "witnesses" at the scene had a fairy tale version of what happened before the video came out.

You mean like Sean Hannity's hero Witness #40?
Posted by Sleazy E
Member since Jan 2014
1768 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 8:59 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111508 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 9:52 am to
quote:

You're skewing whaT I said; I clearly stated that this kid has some major character issues due to his litany of arrests that we know about--can't say the same for MB.


That's because Michael was a juvenile until recently. He had some impressive stuff on his juvie record from the scuttlebutt about town.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58120 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 10:06 am to
Seems some of those good peaceful folks had them a shootout at a convenience store in St. Louis last night. 4 shot, with 1 dead.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111508 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 10:15 am to
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Seems some of those good peaceful folks had them a shootout at a convenience store in St. Louis last night. 4 shot, with 1 dead.


So it was like most metro areas in the last 24 hours. Charleston, Birmingham, Atlanta, New Orleans, Jackson.
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