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re: And Here We Go...Obama Will Look For Ways To Circumvent SCOTUS Ruling

Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:52 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:52 pm to
Rex. The reasoning is clear as day. It is a common type of reasoning used in the law. "No further analysis is necessary" or "we don't decide that issue here" are all over rulings from state appellate courts to the scotus. I cannot help if you don't understand it. As the decision gets interpreted by experts you may respect, I look forward to you being open to the ruling as I have explained it to you.

Btw....for someone who complains about personal attacks....you have ended nearly every post to me with one. Forgive me if I don't lose any sleep losing the respect of someone so hypocritical.
Posted by Taxing Authority
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:54 pm to
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I cannot help if you don't understand it.
Alito wrote it as explicit as it gets. He states it word-for-word.

You, too, have re-explained it for Rex.

But, unfortunately, none of us can understand it for Rex.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 9:55 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:57 pm to
It's like trying to explain English to a puppy
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:09 pm to
You called me both stupid and a liar last night, when I'm neither... so forgive me if I don't respect your whining.

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The reasoning is clear as day.

Yes, and you've gotten it wrong from the get go. His RFRA approach and solution to THIS case wouldn't necessarily apply to all religious claims. He says so clear as day.

"No further analysis is necessary" is because he already reached a solution... the one he already suggested that satisfies RFRA. He says so clear as day.

You still haven't answered why Alito would say "there is none" reason the accommodation for non-profits wouldn't protect women. Wouldn't unconstitutionality be a reason? Wouldn't illegality be a reason? Wouldn't inapplicability be a reason? He says "there is none", clear as day.

Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:12 pm to
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You called me both stupid and a liar last night, when I'm neither...
Yes, yes you are you social fricking mooch.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:12 pm to
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Alito wrote it as explicit as it gets.

Alito explicitly says the accommodation approach that satisfies this Hobby Lobby case wouldn't necessary work for all cases.

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You, too, have re-explained it for Rex.


His explanation is wrong.

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But, unfortunately, none of us can understand it for Rex.

None of you have as much brainpower, frankly.

Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:13 pm to
Rex can you hit the benghazi thread when you get a moment? I believe my question pertains to something you stated previously. No hurry.
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:14 pm to
I have never whined about name calling. That is your forte. I was not whining...merely pointing out you hypocrisy.

I am not going to argue the interpretation of the ruling anymore. It appears clear to me. Perhaps we can revisit after some attorneys you may respect weigh in.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:14 pm to
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None of you have as much brainpower, frankly.
Sperm burper gotta burp.
Posted by GeeOH
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:20 pm to
Oh Lord....fricking Rec in here trying to claim victory out of SCOTUS pissing in Obamacare's cereal.

What a dumb frick. Geez

Listen small man, instead of begging for pinholes of light and assessing how this might one day help the liberal fricks make us pay for whores who seek abortions, why don't you look the other way and see the floodgates open on ALL private companies using this as a cost savings method and demolishing the fricktards plan to fund this abortion of a health bill.

This is over! Get ready
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:23 pm to
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I am not going to argue the interpretation of the ruling anymore. It appears clear to me. Perhaps we can revisit after some attorneys you may respect weigh in.

Set that all aside for the moment.

Explain why Alito would say "there is none" reason that the non-profit accommodation would not protect women if he doesn't believe it's a valid one.

Explain why Alito would say the government could use the non-profit accommodation when in fact they can not if it's illegal, unconstitutional, or inappropriate?

I'll stay tuned.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 10:32 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:25 pm to
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I'll stay affixed to Odrama's crank.
FIFY
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:28 pm to
The court could not decide a matter not in front of them. That is why Alito said they are not deciding that in this ruling. Unless you are claiming that Alito can rule on issues not in front of the court without the entire court voting...I am positive that isn't what you are saying. There is a reason the rules are the way they are and Alito clarifies that the court was not ruling on anything other than the hobby Lobby case. Could you imagine the mess if whichever justice was writing an opinion could throw in additional rulings without the court considering them?

Like I said Rex....it appears clear. But we won't agree...
Posted by antibarner
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:30 pm to
What it boils down to is Hobby Lobby cannot be forced into spending their money the way Obama was dictating that they do.

What it boils down to is Hobby Lobby can invest their pension funds in anything they please and if Rex doesn't like it, there's nothing he can do about it. He can whine and call names, but neither he Barack nor Eric Holder can do anything about it.

Sam Alito can issue any opinion he pleases, and all Rex can do is whine. Can't change it,and his opinion means no more than anyone else's.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 10:31 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:31 pm to
That's why Rexy is pissing on a tree.
Posted by antibarner
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:35 pm to
Let Barack continue attacking and belittling SCOTUS,
and when that GOP lawsuit gets in front of them,watch out.

And Rex will immediately run on here and whine, but there will be NOTHING he can do about it.

Come November when the Dems lose the Senate, and soon after Harry Reid gives up the gavel, it will be payback time. Once again, Rex will rush over here to whine, and once again it will mean NOTHING.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 10:37 pm
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:37 pm to
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The court could not decide a matter not in front of them.

You didn't answer my questions.
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That is why Alito said they are not deciding that in this ruling.

What he actually said is that he is not deciding ALL religious claims with the RFRA accomodation approach that settled this one.

And, I'll remind you... you didn't answer my questions.
Posted by antibarner
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:38 pm to
People have had enough of this manure that the dog and his heroes are spreading, and he will learn that to his sorrow come November.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:39 pm to
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And Rex will immediately run on here and whine
frick head did it last night calling the SCOTUS corrupt, he is a fricking idiot.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:41 pm to
He really isn't worth the fuss, because after November he won't be here any more.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 10:42 pm
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