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Alabama gas tax increase faills, despite support for it from MeeMaw

Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:00 am
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:00 am
MeeMaw is our new guv

They were pushing for 6 cents increase, SHOT DOWN!!!

So, we dodged a bullet

Where is LA on the 17 cent increase?

Hoping your legislature steps up like ours did...
Posted by WPBTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:00 am to
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Where is LA on the 17 cent increase?

Hoping your legislature steps up like ours did...


You and me both.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:03 am to
I thought the AL increase was 9 cents.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:05 am to
What was this increase supposedly to be used for?
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:06 am to
Yep, 9 cents. Details LINK.
Posted by habanos
Alabama
Member since Feb 2014
1937 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:10 am to
Maybe we can aspire to having the highest gas and liquor prices in the state.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10332 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:19 am to
So, since you're against a higher gas tax, do you support:

1) continued underfunding of our infrastructure and deterioration of our roads and bridges

2) getting the money from a less regressive place, such as income tax increases

3) borrow the money and increase our deficits

Just curious. Thanks.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29650 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:22 am to
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Yep, 9 cents. Details LINK.


was basing the number on radio reports I heard yesterday

it was 4 cents for 2017, 2 more cents in 2019 & 3 more coming in 2024 based on your article

just glad it did not pass
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29650 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:23 am to
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What was this increase supposedly to be used for?


secret lovers getaways for future governors

seriously though, I had heard it would be used for roads & highways, but I think we all know we could have counted on a bunch of it going to pet projects for our more powerful & influential legislatures...
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:26 am to
So your of the opinion that we don't have a single penny to cut from our wasteful departments ?
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
2976 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:29 am to
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So your of the opinion that we don't have a single penny to cut from our wasteful departments ?


Two Jindal terms couldn't ferret out the waste but you think a different governor could? Time to stop clinging to this talking point and come up with a real solution.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29650 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:30 am to
quote:

So, since you're against a higher gas tax, do you support:

1) continued underfunding of our infrastructure and deterioration of our roads and bridges

2) getting the money from a less regressive place, such as income tax increases

3) borrow the money and increase our deficits

Just curious. Thanks.


I would start by looking to cut spending elsewhere, but at the end of the day, a less regressive solution would be better (FWIW - I also think that taxes on groceries, at least food staples, should be eliminated)

sure, we need to fund infrastructure improvements, but we are also over taxed as it is

Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:38 am to
Agreed. I hate the incremental con job legislation like that.
Posted by ldts
Member since Aug 2015
2677 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:41 am to
Meh, I'd be fine with a slight gas tax increase. On a per mile driven basis, gas taxes have steadily decreased over the past few decades as a result of greater fuel efficiency. Even with a slight gas tax increase you would still be better off, while more adequately funding roads. The simple fact of the matter is that if you want adequate infrastructure it has to be paid for someway.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:50 am to
quote:

So, since you're against a higher gas tax, do you support:




Most people are somewhat dogmatic about gas taxes. I don't get it. Gas taxes are the most fairly levied taxes of all of them. Don't want to pay more?, then don't buy fuel to use on our roads.

While I don't like the idea of paying more at the pump I also recognize my state's (ms) MDOT is on a shoestring budget. The tax has been stagnate while wages/tractors/everythingelse has seen inflation.


I would like some sort of assurance from the legislators that the extra money won't be diverted elsewhere.

Pothole-free roads and bridges that don't fall in are fantastic.
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 10:02 am
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
12641 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:55 am to
Was suppose to fund Alabama football recruits?
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:56 am to
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I would like some sort of assurance from the legislators that the extra money won't be diverted elsewhere.


Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:00 am to
quote:

So, since you're against a higher gas tax, do you support:

1) continued underfunding of our infrastructure and deterioration of our roads and bridges

2) getting the money from a less regressive place, such as income tax increases

3) borrow the money and increase our deficits

Just curious. Thanks.


The state (and government in general) does not have a revenue problem. They have a spending problem. They do not need any more taxes, they need to cut unnecessary expenses to the bone.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:01 am to
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Five0
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7623 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 10:14 am to
you can live pretty comfy in most parts of AL on 25K a year, i bet if they worked on increasing wages the tax revenue would sky rocket. cant run on the budget of other states when your average income much less.

this little 1100 sq ft place im renting in NC, that sells for 85K, is worth about 17-25K in rural AL.
This post was edited on 4/15/17 at 10:15 am
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