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re: AI: The future of humanity and artificial intelligence
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:20 pm to C
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:20 pm to C
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I'm hopeful there is an intelligence barrier that even computers can't cross. I don't like the thought of being dethroned at the top of the food chain.
Computers are already smarter than humans at some tasks and have been for a while. The best chess player in the world is Magnus Carlson (highest rated player in history). If he plays one of the better chess engines on a desktop PC, he will lose. He might be able to draw a game as white here and there, but he will lose most of the time.
The same thing happened with "Go" as well. I believe the best Go players are now outclassed by computers.
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:33 pm to DeltaDoc
AI will, won't or already has come into (limited) fruition, depending on your criteria.
It wasn't that long ago that some smart people believed that AI would be "here" once computers could beat humans at chess because chess supposedly required a level of human like strategic thinking. Nope, you just needed enough capacity to know all 600 sextillion or however many moves and you were golden.
It wasn't that long ago that some smart people believed that AI would be "here" once computers could beat humans at chess because chess supposedly required a level of human like strategic thinking. Nope, you just needed enough capacity to know all 600 sextillion or however many moves and you were golden.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 3/27/17 at 4:07 pm to Walking the Earth
AI is certainly a sliding scale with no real definition. We machines start taking out humans with purpose, maybe that's the end of the scale.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 4:10 pm to mylsuhat
quote:"DO YOU THINK ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WOULD TAKE DMT"
Listen to Joe Rogan's podcast #930 with Will MacAskill
Posted on 3/27/17 at 4:11 pm to Iosh
Posted on 3/27/17 at 4:17 pm to DeltaDoc
Also this is a good summary of the various skeptical criticisms of Musk/Hawking/Bostrom/etc.
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The Argument From Stephen Hawking's Cat
Stephen Hawking is one of the most brilliant people alive, but say he wants to get his cat into the cat carrier. How's he going to do it?
He can model the cat's behavior in his mind and figure out ways to persuade it. He knows a lot about feline behavior. But ultimately, if the cat doesn't want to get in the carrier, there's nothing Hawking can do about it despite his overpowering advantage in intelligence.
Even if he devoted his career to feline motivation and behavior, rather than theoretical physics, he still couldn't talk the cat into it.
You might think I'm being offensive or cheating because Stephen Hawking is disabled. But an artificial intelligence would also initially not be embodied, it would be sitting on a server somewhere, lacking agency in the world. It would have to talk to people to get what it wants.
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The Argument From My Roommate
My roommate was the smartest person I ever met in my life. He was incredibly brilliant, and all he did was lie around and play World of Warcraft between bong rips.
The assumption that any intelligent agent will want to recursively self-improve, let alone conquer the galaxy, to better achieve its goals makes unwarranted assumptions about the nature of motivation.
It's perfectly possible an AI won't do much of anything, except use its powers of hyperpersuasion to get us to bring it brownies.
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The Argument From Childhood
Intelligent creatures don't arise fully formed. We're born into this world as little helpless messes, and it takes us a long time of interacting with the world and with other people in the world before we can start to be intelligent beings.
Even the smartest human being comes into the world helpless and crying, and requires years to get some kind of grip on themselves.
It's possible that the process could go faster for an AI, but it is not clear how much faster it could go. Exposure to real-world stimuli means observing things at time scales of seconds or longer.
Moreover, the first AI will only have humans to interact with—its development will necessarily take place on human timescales. It will have a period when it needs to interact with the world, with people in the world, and other baby superintelligences to learn to be what it is.
Furthermore, we have evidence from animals that the developmental period *grows* with increasing intelligence, so that we would have to babysit an AI and change its (figurative) diapers for decades before it grew coordinated enough to enslave us all.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 3/27/17 at 4:17 pm to AUstar
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Computers are already smarter than humans at some tasks and have been for a while. The best chess player in the world is Magnus Carlson (highest rated player in history). If he plays one of the better chess engines on a desktop PC, he will lose. He might be able to draw a game as white here and there, but he will lose most of the time.
That's not really intelligence. It's just adding up 1s and 0s as programmed. the computer isn't inferring anything other than what it was told to do on the most basic level.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 4:58 pm to C
I dont think we will have AI until we unlock how the brain stores information. At that point, we will be able to make the dumbest the smartest, live eternal life in a virtual world, and also upload consciousness to machines. All scary but also exciting for the human race.
Ive also pondered what is next for the human species. I have been watching shows about how homonids evolved into current day homo sapien. My thoughts were what is next? Will we at some point become a new species or merge with robots in some form or fashion.
Alot of crazy things to think about.
Ive also pondered what is next for the human species. I have been watching shows about how homonids evolved into current day homo sapien. My thoughts were what is next? Will we at some point become a new species or merge with robots in some form or fashion.
Alot of crazy things to think about.
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