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AI: The future of humanity and artificial intelligence

Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:22 pm
Vanity Fair Article by Dowd on Elon Musk and AI

What are your thoughts on this subject? I've been reading on it lately and to be honest, it is scary stuff.

By the way, the linked article is long but worth the read.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:24 pm to
Elon loves him some Elon

Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48945 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:28 pm to
Listen to Joe Rogan's podcast #930 with Will MacAskill
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27827 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:30 pm to
I'm hopeful there is an intelligence barrier that even computers can't cross. I don't like the thought of being dethroned at the top of the food chain.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34961 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:32 pm to
If you like novels...you'd find "The Transhumanist Wager" fun. Smart dude wrote it. The essential point is that there are people out there who indeed believe that the ticket to immortality and 'Heaven' is through high tech. And they will NOT be constrained by Religious Ideas or Theological-based morality which they consider ludicrous...and in effect, immoral...if it denies them their basic freedom to pursue immortality via high tech.

I found if overly dramatic and simplistic in the way it portrayed the (stereotypically stupid, selfish and evil) Religious characters. But you'll get the drift.

Brave new world coming. "I will take the wise in their own craftiness" (Good Book). I guess somebody has to do it.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
16878 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:32 pm to
Start with artificial Womb first. That will be a game changer.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:34 pm to
It's crazy. Not an Alex Jones fan but he talked about it on the #911 Joe Rogan podcast as well.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by Machine
Earth
Member since May 2011
6001 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:35 pm to
Terminator will come to fruition.

Probably not in our lifetime
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:38 pm to
The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.


That, my friends, is Artificial Intelligence.

Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56377 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:46 pm to
Blah blah Skynet blah blah robot overlords.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:54 pm to
I hope Paul is right. The google boys disagree. Bill Gates thinks it could happen.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:57 pm to
It's pretty much inevitable. I don't think it will happen in my lifetime, but its coming.

What I do see in my lifetime is the beginning of the moral debate on AI "slavery" and whatnot
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10985 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:03 pm to
Read the article this morning and was weighing whether to kill myself.

But then I realized that if I just waited for the Terminators to do it for me, I would in essence be exercising final control over their actions!

So at least I'll have that going for me...
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Listen to Joe Rogan's podcast #930 with Will MacAskill


Sam Harris w/ Stuart Russell is better: LINK

There are a number of other interviews in his feed on this topic.

I can't take Maureen Dowd seriously on anything technological after her embarrassing experience with a pot edible.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28131 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:11 pm to
I am by no means an expert but started reading into it a couple of years ago. A problem with the idea is that it conflates computing power with actual intelligence or sentience. So while Moore's Law has been somewhat reliable (at least until now), advances in software have not necessarily been made in a similarly exponential fashion. Moreover, machine learning itself, while closer to human cognition, does not entail sentience. An example I have mentioned on here before is that Watson may win Jeopardy but it has no idea it won...same for AlphaGo.

Getting to a level such that a machine enjoys human-level intelligence would be an unbelievable step change vs. just being able to pwn humans in Chess or Go (or install tires on a Tahoe for that matter).

Still, an interesting topic. We just have no way of knowing how go predict something like this, and it's odd that your Verge and Kurzweil types coincidentally point to the event horizon falling within either of their respective life spans.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 3:14 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67126 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:12 pm to
Like robots won't follow us to Mars, they're ALREADY THERE!!!
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:13 pm to


This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 3:50 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67126 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

Terminator will come to fruition.


Looking forward to:
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 3:19 pm to
Robot start fricking with me I'm firing up the cutting torch. Terminator be gone.

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