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About the Muslim Gay cake thing

Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:14 am
Posted by SeaOfRed
Member since Nov 2016
162 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:14 am
A persons beliefs are just that, the persons, not everyone else's and that's fine in the confines of your home and personal self. But when you go into public to interact with others in society, it's not about JUST YOU anymore. Are you making cakes because you love Jesus and just for yourself or are you doing it for a profit? Should bakeries be able to refuse service? Or any store for that matter? SURE. But that place of business should expect less revenue and most likely bad media attention. So much for increased profit there. If there isn't a market for said service to said individual, then create one, after all that is what America is about, opportunity. What happened to celebrating our DIFFERENCES? How did we go from celebrating to hating each other because were all different? Yea it sucks you have to go to another bakery, but grow up. Why can't you just order a cake for 50 - 100 people without being all faggy about it? Just walk in like the man you were born and order a cake. Nobody really cares who the heck you sleep with.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:15 am to
I side with the muslim bakers here

Their business, their rules. Government shouldnt dictate to a private individual/business how to operate
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:16 am to
That video is from years ago. Slow news day or something?
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:16 am to
Toddy will be here shortly to condemn these Muslims.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71710 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:16 am to
Still not sure whose alter you are...
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72103 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:17 am to
quote:

But when you go into public to interact with others in society, it's not about JUST YOU anymore
Yes it is.

I side with the Muslims. I do not support forced association in any way, shape, or form.

Private businesses should be afforded the right to choose who they want to enter an agreement with.

That is a basic tenant of freedom.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58889 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:18 am to
quote:

I side with the muslim bakers here Their business, their rules. Government shouldnt dictate to a private individual/business how to operate



Agreed.
Posted by SeaOfRed
Member since Nov 2016
162 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:20 am to
Scruffy, I'd like you to ask EVERY person you interact with today what their sexual preference is, if they are OK with YOUR beliefs over their own, and what religion they are. I think you are in for a SHOCK. And if you read my post, I said it was OK for a business to refuse service, I said SURE. But to their loss of profit, the opposite of the reason of running your own business, but hey I digress.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:27 am to
I just don't know why they didn't bake the damn thing, fill it with explosives and BOOM.....no more gays......hell they'd celebrate that shite.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77321 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:30 am to
Where was all the lib outrage on this? Just another lib double standard...
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Scruffy, I'd like you to ask EVERY person you interact with today what their sexual preference is, if they are OK with YOUR beliefs over their own, and what religion they are. I think you are in for a SHOCK. And if you read my post, I said it was OK for a business to refuse service, I said SURE. But to their loss of profit, the opposite of the reason of running your own business, but hey I digress.


This is a horrible comparison...

This is not what happened at all...

A closer comparison would be:

Walk into a black person's bakery and ask them to make a cake with only white people.
They will immediately ask why...but should they? Does it discriminate against you because of your race?
They will want to know intent, tell them you are having a WPLL movement, and want to kick it off with cake.

Here we have a parallel comparison...subbing "sexual orientation" with "race" in all discrimination laws.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:36 am to
A business should have the right to deny service to anyone for any reason.
Posted by SeaOfRed
Member since Nov 2016
162 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:43 am to
Discrimination comes in many forms.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72103 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:48 am to
quote:

Scruffy, I'd like you to ask EVERY person you interact with today what their sexual preference is, if they are OK with YOUR beliefs over their own, and what religion they are. I think you are in for a SHOCK. And if you read my post, I said it was OK for a business to refuse service, I said SURE. But to their loss of profit, the opposite of the reason of running your own business, but hey I digress.
It is my CHOICE not to because it doesn't matter to me.

Do you understand that? My choice. Just like it was the CHOICE by these Muslims to ask.

As I said, I support the freedom to choose. You apparently do not, and I find your stance to be fundamentally anti-freedom and therefore anti-American.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:49 am to
quote:

I side with the muslim bakers here


Me too. The most important thing I take from this is the lack of coverage and outrage by the big three fake media.
Posted by SeaOfRed
Member since Nov 2016
162 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:50 am to

As I said, I support the freedom to choose. You apparently do not


Holy full retard, did you even read my post? You have to be the dumbest sack of nails on this board.
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6081 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 9:55 am to
Women's Workout World bans men.

Orthodox Jews ban women from temple.

Muslims ban women from the prayer service.

Who cares? Nobody.

But if Christians do something like this - it is WW3.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72103 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:01 am to
quote:


Holy full retard, did you even read my post? You have to be the dumbest sack of nails on this board.


I'll admit I didn't read your full post.

I am a firm supporter of freedom of association, so I jump to conclusions.
Posted by IceTiger
Really hot place
Member since Oct 2007
26584 posts
Posted on 2/14/17 at 10:03 am to
quote:

Discrimination


Every day we discriminate against others for a variety of reasons...

"That guy's an idiot, I'd better spell out this task for him..."
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