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re: A perfectly relevant question for Rand to ask Hillary ...

Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:13 pm to
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A perfectly relevant question for Rand to ask Hillary


Ms Clinton, will you instruct our State Department personnel according to the Arkansas Gentlemen Handbook where the proper way for a man to acknowledge a woman's presence in a room is by waving their penises?
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:14 pm to
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If Paul is smart, he will leave Hillary out of his attacks on Bill as far as Lewinsky is concerned. This sort of loaded questioning might appeal to some FOX News viewers, but I suspect it would turn off a lot of women. I can see Ted Cruz doing something like this, but so far Paul has been more careful with his attacks. I also suspect Paul will avoid birthers leg the bubonic plague, lest all his efforts to reach out to Black folks would be for naught.


They can write off the Black vote, TF. The vote is Dem 90%+, and are gonna stay Dem. They may shave a few points in the open-minded Black Demographic, and a low Black turnout...but for the most part the loss of Blacks must be countered with a rally in the Conservative Base. In the big picture, Conservatives would do as well by blatantly playing the race card and rallying real Redneck pseudo-racists as playing to Blacks who will never vote against their big government interest.

Rand can joke and smirk...but Hillary has so much baggage that it will be the 'swift boat' organizations that hammer her into political oblivion. Rand don't have to attack her until the debates.

I this place is still on a tract that would even come close to electing another Prog as POTUS...it means we'll be on the verge of going over the cliff anyway. The POTUS will have about as much cred and sway over here as Assad does in Syria.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:19 pm to
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So it's okay to ask about Ann Romney having a horse, but it's not okay to ask about Hillary having a husband who is an actual sexual harrassment risk

Got it. Impeccable logic.

First of all, Ann has never been a politician, so she couldn't have recieved this question in political debate if she recieved it at all. Second, do you really equate Ann Romney having an Olympic caliber horse (something she should be proud of) with Hillary Clinton having a cheating husband (something that caused her embarassment and shame)?
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:20 pm to
The reason it sounds abnormal to even think about these policies is because it's also abnormal (in modern day America) to imagine someone like Bill even being allowed back to the "scene of the crime." The guy would be a PR nightmare if he was allowed back in any other office in America. He had sex with a 22-year old girl (an intern no less) on the job. It's unbelievable to even think about. Can you imagine Miles sticking it to an LSU cheerleader in the locker room after a football game? Why is what Bill did any different?
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:21 pm to
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I sure hope Rand doesn't have peabrains running his campaign like the people on this board, though it appears he does based on his attacking Bill's misdeed.

I think some of these folks must secretly hope that Rand bombs as a Presidential candidate. The tone deafness is mind-boggling.
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 2:22 pm
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:22 pm to
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Attacking the woman who stood by her man and had to deal with a cheater in a very public way by bringing up the incident isn't going to get you into the White House. No matter how much you peabrains think this is a gotcha. Maybe if he was debating Bill this would matter, but in a debate with the actual candidate, Hillary, Rand is going to come out looking like a petty a-hole.
Rand is already setting this up perfectly. He is questioning all of those that have given money to the dem party on Bill's behalf. Bill is the person who has exploited women throughout his whole career. Hillary standing by her man has enabled it. SO, when Rand or any other candidate starts to attack Hilary on any issue, the media cannot change the narrative to this is "sexist" because Rand has already pointed out that President Clinton was "sexist" and Hilary enabled it.

Rand has not attacked Hilary at all during this time, but he is doing a better job of setting up his punches down the road. Not so much different than this current administration changing the narrative from the economy to the false "war on women"
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:23 pm to
She should have left him then. It's her fault she'd have to share the White House with someone who is threatening to any young woman on the premises.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79052 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:24 pm to
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Mrs. Clinton, given your husband had sex


Would be in poor taste for RP to pull that stunt. She had nothing to do with that situation and frankly, she handled it well.

She still sucks monkey arse though FWIW
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:29 pm to
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She had nothing to do with that situation and frankly, she handled it well.


By sticking with the slime bag just for the political currency he provided!
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:32 pm to
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They can write off the Black vote, TF. The vote is Dem 90%+, and are gonna stay Dem. They may shave a few points in the open-minded Black Demographic, and a low Black turnout...but for the most part the loss of Blacks must be countered with a rally in the Conservative Base. In the big picture, Conservatives would do as well by blatantly playing the race card and rallying real Redneck pseudo-racists as playing to Blacks who will never vote against their big government interest.

Fortunately, Rand realizes that the Southern Strategy is a losing strategy these days though you may not realize it. Something you also don't seem to grasp is that the majority of Black folks are middle class and above, and many well-to-do Black folks vote against their economic interests simply because they're offended by camapign tactics designed to woo the folks who you call "real Redneck pseudo-racists".
This post was edited on 2/14/14 at 2:37 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48282 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:34 pm to
You paint with a wide brush my friend.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22499 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:36 pm to
Another
quote:

gotcha
moment by the GOP, to line up with all their other "Gotcha!" trophies.

Meanwhile, the democrats keep winning the important elections...
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123872 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:37 pm to
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In my view, these questions would be relevant at any major company in America, why not in this instance?
Issue is not particularly valuable as an attack on Hillary. Just as a perspective-setter re: "The War on Women".

As long as Clinton or the Dem nominee try to claim high ground with women while using BC in some capacity, this thing has legs.
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19691 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:37 pm to
All I did was repeat RCDfan's term.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:43 pm to
quote:

I'll need time,
To get you off my mind.
And I may sometimes bother you;
Try to be in touch with you.
Even ask too much of you from time to time.

Now and then,
Lord you know I'll need a friend.
'Til I get used to losing you,
Let me keep on using you.
'Til I can make it on my own.

I'll get by,
But no matter how I try,
There'll be times you know I'll call.
Chances are my tears will fall,
And I'll have no pride at all, from time to time.

But they say,
Oh, there'll be a brighter day.
But 'til then I'll lean on you,
That's all I mean to do.
'Til I can make it on my own.

Surely someday I'll look up and see the morning sun,
Without another lonely night behind me.
Then I'll know I'm over you and all my crying's done.
No more hurtin' memories can find me.

But 'til then,
Lord, you know I'm gonna need a friend.
'Til I get used to losing you,
Let me keep on using you.
'Til I can make it on my own.

Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

Would be in poor taste for RP to pull that stunt. She had nothing to do with that situation and frankly, she handled it well.


Hillary is the one that launched the attacks on Monica that referred to her as being crazy that the dem machine and the press first ran about Monica.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

A perfectly relevant question for Rand to ask Hillary


Ms. Clinton, do you currently, or have you ever owned or worn a blue cocktail dress? If so, how much does it cost to have it dry cleaned?
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:47 pm to
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Yep, that's exactly what I said, RedStickPeabrain. If the plan of attack is to go after the wife for the husband's cheating, better prepare for four more.


Politics isn't pretty, kiddo. Most of these people are slime bags. I suggest you stop being a wimp.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11276 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:52 pm to
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So it's okay to ask about Ann Romney having a horse, but it's not okay to ask about Hillary having a husband who is an actual sexual harrassment risk


no but its a pretty ridiculous way to handle it if you are going to go after the topic.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 2/14/14 at 2:54 pm to
Not if you're looking at it the way Rand Paul is looking at it. He's not looking to be petty. He's looking to whittle away at the effectiveness of Bill Clinton.
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