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re: A great article about why America blows...

Posted on 4/5/14 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 8:27 pm to
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The bottom line is that there is NO WAY to pay for the exponential health care requirements for an indulgent and undisciplined populous...who CAN'T OR WON'T PAY for their own indulgence. It is weak people, who have the freedom to live irresponsibly that is causing the economic problem here. The Prog idea is to force the strong/responsible folk to pay for the (many times) irresponsible/immoral freedoms of choice of the weak.


Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 9:33 pm to
More reasons i love America!





Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45210 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 9:57 pm to
You call that great?

Its obvious you have been blowing the author.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14896 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 11:19 pm to
Europe will be under Sharia law in under 20 years. No thanks.
Posted by Navtiger1
Washington
Member since Aug 2007
3368 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 11:35 pm to
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Europe will be under Sharia law in under 20 years.




Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
27381 posts
Posted on 4/5/14 at 11:42 pm to
America don't blow. The silent majority still exists and one day will awaken and bitch slap all the liberal douche pansies into submission. We are a country of immigrants (legal) that ventured out to make it on their own. No handouts. Just hard work and determination without a ruling aristocracy to keep us down. Of my great grandparents. More than half were first generation immigrants that came here with nothing. I wasn't raised to bitch about what this country owed me. I was raised to make my on destiny, kick arse, and take names. 'murica...
Posted by todospm
Member since Sep 2013
526 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 7:48 am to
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big pharma incents docs to write prescriptions


I don't agree with most of the essay. But I think he's spot on with this prescription stuff.

I've lived in a few different spots, and traveled pretty extensively... I've never seen people eat prescription drugs like Americans. Whether or not docs are being incentivized, I don't know. It certainly feels like it. Just about every Hollywood death revolves around pill collections that could make junkies blush. And these people are thrust out into the public limelight as our heroes.

As for regular folk, how many people are prescribed to Ritalin and Xanax, with a dose of Ambien at bed time? My father goes to AA meetings, and tells me that a hefty handful of his compatriots are on similar cocktail, some kind of adult ADHD and social anxiety combination. Whatever the excuse to make getting bent a shameless exercise, I suppose.

What's equally bizarre is that in America recreational drug use carries such stiff penalties (though weed is changing rapidly).
Posted by todospm
Member since Sep 2013
526 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 7:53 am to
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America don't blow. The silent majority still exists and one day will awaken and bitch slap all the liberal douche pansies into submission. We are a country of immigrants (legal) that ventured out to make it on their own. No handouts. Just hard work and determination without a ruling aristocracy to keep us down. Of my great grandparents. More than half were first generation immigrants that came here with nothing. I wasn't raised to bitch about what this country owed me. I was raised to make my on destiny, kick arse, and take names. 'murica.


If you're serious about the aristocracy, ask why the Republicans have put up a legacy candidate for President every election since 1988, except for 1996 (the most inconsequential Republican candidate during that time, btw).

That's 6 of the last 7, and 4 for the last 4, for those keeping home at score. So yadda yadda kick *ss, just don't hope to become President.
Posted by todospm
Member since Sep 2013
526 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 8:02 am to
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Europe will be under Sharia law in under 20 years. No thanks.


I will match criticisms of Islam toe to toe with that crazy guy who used to post here and was apparently obsessed with the subject....

But this is ridiculous. France takes its secularism far, far more seriously than Americans. Minaret bans in Switzerland, circumcision bans, halal meat bans, etc.

Will be interesting to watch the approaching sh*tstorm over there. But people ready to concede Europe in the time it takes to rear a snot-nosed teenager... What we need to do is discredit Saudi Arabia and the Salafism it exports. But that won't happen as long as we suck its teat for oil and are occupied unseating secular dictators for them.

This post was edited on 4/6/14 at 8:03 am
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
5792 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 8:18 am to
Sure, we've got problems in our country...but it's still the best damn country on the planet and if you don't agree get the hell out!
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14896 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 8:31 am to
The birth rates don't lie
Posted by LawLessTyGer
Bay of Ponchartrain
Member since Jan 2009
1256 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 8:39 am to
America doesn't 'blow' its current leaders do though....
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35009 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 8:41 am to
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quote:I am not a tort lawyerduckquote:i've already said that medmal isn't that big an issue to medodgequote:I recognize the reality that (while it's a factor)weavequote:it's not the main driver for the rising healthcare costs in this countrystumblequote:So I'm not dodging anything herefallquote:I'm happy conceding smaller issues to youFAIL! Your argument is that a room full of Ambulance Chasers earnestly state in a very earnest way that Ambulance Chasing has virtually nothing to do with healthcare costs. They are so earnest in fact, that even someone 'skeptical' as you might otherwise be swayed by such sincere earnestness. Great! You (and they) tend to quote studies offered by lawyers, and legal friendly organizations as supportive of minimal impact of tort. Yet while you're happy to criticize US Healthcare costs as >2-fold other countries like Britain, you ignore the fact that per capita direct costs of US HC Tort exceeds Britain's 60-fold. Average UK settlement is 1/10th that of the US, and Brits are 6X less likely to sue. So while 2X is terrible, you'd have it that 60X is not. And as eye opening as the 60-fold difference is, it ignores ignore the much, MUCH LARGER dynamic costs of tort. Not clear as to WTF dynamic costs of tort references? Let's consider some examples: Take a wild guess why the US is the only country in the world in which CAT Scans are routinely obtained prior to appendectomy. Take a guess as to why US C-Section rates are 300% - 600% higher than international recs. The costs of just those two medical examples (even without incorporating any direct medical lawsuit costs) outstrip the entire all-encompassing tort impact claimed by virtually any legally funded/research/study/propaganda out there. Of course, those examples are but a scratch of the service. As we are talking about the same US medical tort industry which falsely sued the US silicon breast implant manufactures into insolvency, would you like to address the impact of tort on cost of other implants . . . like the hip implant prosthetics you earlier alluded to? Or on medical equipment? Or on pharmaceuticals? Little impact, if at all, correct? At least that's what your room full of personal injury lawyers would claim.


Triangle choke = TAPOUT!

Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 8:43 am to
I saw a bumper sticker that sums it up nicely: The measure of the quality of a nation is determined by the number of people who want to enter vs the number who want to leave.
Posted by todospm
Member since Sep 2013
526 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 10:24 am to
I disagree with that. Tons of people want to get into Oil Rich Arab emirates. That doesn't mean they're quality nations.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57386 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 10:38 am to
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I've never seen people eat prescription drugs like Americans. Whether or not docs are being incentivized, I don't know.
No one, to my knowledge, is being forced to take anything they don't want.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57386 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 10:41 am to
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Yet while you're happy to crticize US Healthcare costs... while working in an industry that on average is nearly 10x more profitable.
He seems to have abandoned this thread.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 10:47 am to
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It's a little longer than 50 words so it may be hard for some of you to hang in there and read it till the end



It isn't hard when you don't even get started!

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58194 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 5:54 pm to
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You’ve got your own version of the Taliban: right-wing Christian fundamentalists who actively loathe the idea of secular Constitutional government.




I read up until this part. It was clear from the get go by the people that he was calling out that he had an agenda, but if there was any doubt before, this cleared it up.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 4/6/14 at 6:50 pm to
frick that guy.
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