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re: A bunch of people are making a big deal about MJ in Brown's system...

Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by Rex
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:19 pm to
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He didn't think the cop would shoot so Brown charged forward... and he shot... and Brown still charged forward... and he shot... and Brown still charged forward... and he shot... and Brown still charged forward... and he shot... and Brown still charged forward... and he shot... and Brown still charged forward... and he shot... and Brown fell three feet from him.

And it probably happened in less time than it took to read that paragraph.
Posted by blackjackjackson
fourth dimension
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:22 pm to
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I think the only thing it proves is that he wasn't the angel some are making him out to be


anchor seems to be the rant's friend. there have been numerous posts regarding mb's criminal history. i can't validate anything, but google is my friend, and the young man seems to have a checkered past of violence!
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:23 pm to
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And it probably happened in less time than it took to read that paragraph.


No doubt and that's why I'm not blaming the cop. When you start shooting in self-defense, you shoot quick.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:23 pm to
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MJ is a gateway drug though, so he might very well have been on something else or either he was just stupid.



Wow, you are truly ignorant.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:24 pm to
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anchor seems to be the rant's friend. there have been numerous posts regarding mb's criminal history. i can't validate anything, but google is my friend, and the young man seems to have a checkered past of violence!



Yes because googling someone named Michael Brown is easy since it's such an uncommon name.

Posted by MrTide33
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:24 pm to
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onmymedicalgrind


If the marijuana was taken recently, would it affect his reaction to being shot, and possibly dull him to the danger as a whole?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68234 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:25 pm to
I've seen it with more than one person. In fact many. It doesn't do it to most but marijuana most certainly can lead to paranoia and resultant aggression.

I'm not speaking about its possible role in this case, just what I'veseen in hospitals.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:27 pm to
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If the marijuana was taken recently, would it affect his reaction to being shot, and possibly dull him to the danger as a whole?





And no, it absolutely would not.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:27 pm to
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If the marijuana was taken recently, would it affect his reaction to being shot, and possibly dull him to the danger as a whole?

I highly doubt it. Very unlikely. PCP is another story however.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:28 pm to
Paranoia which leads to aggression, maybe in aggressive people. Your hospital sample may be skewing your perception, though.
Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:30 pm to
Do you beleive everybody reacts the same to a chemical? I can take 10 Vics and be sailing ,my wife take 2 and be sick and sleeping.Hummm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68234 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:30 pm to
I said it didn't happen in most users. But it most certainly happens in some. And, no, one does not need a history of aggression to become aggressive when paranoid. It's a rather natural reaction to the believe that you are in danger.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:34 pm to
People prone to fight in that fight-or-flight response due to amygdala activation (stimulated by the cannabinoids binding to the endocannabinoid receptors in the amygdala), I would argue, are more aggressive people in general.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:42 pm to
Not necessarily. I've seen it enough to recognize it as one reaction to mj. I've gotten enough collateral info from family members who report no history of violence from enough of these cases to recognize that it is a not uncommon response to mj. At some point one learns not to treat the textbook but, rather , the patient before them.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:49 pm to
Again, your sample is skewing your perception. That is not the norm.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68234 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:51 pm to
Are you not paying attention? I said it wasn't the norm, rather a not uncommon event.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 3:01 pm to
If it's happening in a hospital, it's an uncommon event
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123910 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 4:18 pm to
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There's no way him at 6'3 the bullet could enter his eye and exit then enter his shoulder and then enter the top of his head unless he was falling or if he's a defensive tackle in a four point stance.


Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 4:58 pm to
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Well it just shows he wasn't a sweet, innocent angel the media was trying to portray.


I think that part was pretty obvious once he threatened to punch the clerk if he didn't back down. The video revealed his character, a big dumb mean aggressive individual. I feel like I'm living in bizarro world when I hear people in the media say that the video is not relevant or that it is character assassination. He assassinated his own character.
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