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re: 65% of 8th graders can't read
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:47 pm to Pdubntrub
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:47 pm to Pdubntrub
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65% of 8th graders can't read
quote:Seriously not trying do drop a douchenozzle subtle brag here, but my 8th grade daughter is honor roll. And that's in public school, small town Oklahoma. Even the ridiculous standard testing she scores above average. And all of her classmates can read and do math at least at the middle school level.
67% can't do math
OP is way too vague. Those stats may be true in some places, but I'd need a little more detail before biting.
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Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:49 pm to Rougarou13
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Most telling is that everyone here thinks you can add percentages of unrelated things to equate a value greater than the whole.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:51 pm to TigerAxeOK
Anywhere you go there are going to be differences in the averages. Without reading it, I would imagine it is an average of the country as a whole...which is even worse because as you say, there are high performing schools, so in order to drag that stat so far down there must be some VERY low performing...
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:55 pm to TigerAxeOK
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Seriously not trying do drop a douchenozzle subtle brag here, but my 8th grade daughter is honor roll. And that's in public school, small town Oklahoma. Even the ridiculous standard testing she scores above average. And all of her classmates can read and do math at least at the middle school level.
OP is way too vague. Those stats may be true in some places, but I'd need a little more detail before biting.
We just last week had a thread about there not being one single child in the Baltimore school district who was reading at grade level.
That's 13 schools, 83000 students. My local school district has 1200 students and is probably about average sized for rural America in that 90% of our students pass the reading test most years, so it would take 69 "average sized" school districts where EVERY single child was reading at grade level just to make up for Baltimore.
Multiply that times however many major urban school districts are probably <= 40%.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:57 pm to LSURussian
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LSURussian
Holy shite y’all are dense. You think I was correcting you? By giving another number that was absolutely asinine?
Posted on 5/1/18 at 2:59 pm to Rougarou13
It's hilariously ironic that so many people misread a post in a thread bout literacy. 
Posted on 5/1/18 at 3:01 pm to TigerAxeOK
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Only 5 percent of Detroit public-school eighth graders were proficient or better in math. Only 7 percent were proficient or better in reading.
Holy shite! Can you imagine how low the percent is that are proficient in both? You know, like a normal person.
I just am having a hard time believing this.
ETA: HOLY CRAP!!!
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Among the states, Louisiana public elementary schools did the worst in teaching students math and New Mexico public elementary schools did the worst job teaching reading.
In the Louisiana public schools, only 19 percent of the eighth graders were proficient or better in math and only 25 percent were proficient or better in reading.
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 5/1/18 at 3:02 pm to Pdubntrub
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“Eighth-graders performing at the Proficient level should…understand the connections between fractions, percents, decimals, and other mathematical topics such as algebra and functions,” says NCES. “Students at this level are expected to have a thorough understanding of Basic level arithmetic operations—an understanding sufficient for problem solving in practical situations.” When it comes to reading, eighth-grade “students performing at the Proficient level should be able to provide relevant information and summarize main ideas and themes,” says NCES. “They should be able to make and support inferences about a text, connect parts of a text, and analyze text features. Students performing at this level should also be able to fully substantiate judgments about content and presentation of content.” The NAEP math and reading tests are scored on a scale of 0-500. The average reading score for an eighth-grade public school student on the 2017 NAEP test was 265. That was slightly above the average score of 264 that public school eight graders achieved in 2015, but slightly below the average score of 266 public school eighth graders achieved in 2013. The average math score for an eighth-grade public school student on the 2017 NAEP test was 282. That was slightly above the average score of 281 in 2015, but slightly less than the average score of 284 in 2013.
Pretty misleading title. Because their comprehension may not be "Proficient" does not mean they can't read.
Not to mention these scores came from assessment tests, which kids know they aren't graded on. I remember trying to make a dick out of the scantron bubbles in 9th grade for an assessment test. This means nothing
This post was edited on 5/1/18 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 5/1/18 at 3:08 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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was facing financial problems after defaulting on a $1.9 million high interest payday loan.
Okay this is fricking hilarious. Vince Young cant pay his mortgage note, so he just waltzes into Check-into-cash for a $2 million dollar loan.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 3:10 pm to Pdubntrub
The OP is one of the ones who has reading proficiency issues.
The article uses the word proficiency.
It does not say that they CANT read.
The article uses the word proficiency.
It does not say that they CANT read.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 3:16 pm to WHS
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No parents are just worthless and just as ignorant. Teachers cant make chicken salad out of chicken shite, its that simple.
Hell, all I did was donate the sperm and my kids are pretty smart. My wife is lazy as well. We never check their homework, they never ask for help, always bring home A's. I'm talking 3 for 3. Maybe it is something genetic? Good nutrition? Loving home? Maybe we have excellent teachers!!! At least I'm getting something for my property tax down here in South La.
And what about chicken feathers? Can they make chicken salad out of chicken feathers? Because if they are just making chicken salad out of chicken meat, then teachers are overpaid. That's simple...
Posted on 5/1/18 at 3:42 pm to Pdubntrub
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65% of 8th graders can't read
There's no way that's true. Fake news.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 3:52 pm to Pdubntrub
This is such bullshite. I've never been in any place where 65% of any group couldn't read.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 4:06 pm to TigerAxeOK
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Those stats may be true in some places, but I'd need a little more detail before biting
Read the article, the stats were for some places. Kids that can marginally read and not understand what they are reading really can't read.
No one suggested every schools is filled with dysfunctional children.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 4:18 pm to mooseofterror
No, teachers would be more content with the pay if they could teach and not have to use some BS canned curriculum, and discipline children as they should be. Also, teaching dummed downed versions of education, so certain kids can “pass” is anti-education. They need to fail those who need to be. Send them to special education. Kick them out of school, so those who want to learn have that opportunity. Then, teachers would look at their jobs differently.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 4:38 pm to slaphappy
Headline is misleading. An 8th grader reading at 7th grade level is NOT proficient but CAN read.
Where there are tons of poor kids reading and math skills lag. This is, in part, because kids who used to drop out of school early are staying in school and being tested (unlike in 1960). And, millions of special ed kids are being served in schools (good thing) longer and are being tested and those scores are factored in. That was not true in the 1950s.
But, in thousands of public school districts all over the country, kids are reading at above grade levels and doing math well.
It is a good thing public schools exist because, if they did not, most of those poor, under-achieving kids would be without any reading or math skills and running the streets.
Where there are tons of poor kids reading and math skills lag. This is, in part, because kids who used to drop out of school early are staying in school and being tested (unlike in 1960). And, millions of special ed kids are being served in schools (good thing) longer and are being tested and those scores are factored in. That was not true in the 1950s.
But, in thousands of public school districts all over the country, kids are reading at above grade levels and doing math well.
It is a good thing public schools exist because, if they did not, most of those poor, under-achieving kids would be without any reading or math skills and running the streets.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 4:40 pm to GeorgeWest
Your last paragraph is a lie
New England had a 100% school enrollment rate in the 1600s, literally centuries before public schools
New England had a 100% school enrollment rate in the 1600s, literally centuries before public schools
Posted on 5/1/18 at 7:26 pm to GeorgeWest
Yea, good thing that 5% in Detroit can read.
Posted on 5/1/18 at 7:34 pm to Pdubntrub
MOAR MONEY
MOOOOAAAAAAAR!!!
MOOOOAAAAAAAR!!!
Posted on 5/1/18 at 7:38 pm to Pdubntrub
As long as they can still tweet and use emojis, they will be fine!
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