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re: 32 degrees at North Pole; Louisiana gulf waters rising?
Posted on 12/25/16 at 4:06 pm to bmy
Posted on 12/25/16 at 4:06 pm to bmy
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I think between our ingenuity, advances in technology, and the logical shift to alternative energy sources (while still heavily utilizing oil and gas) we (USA) will be just fine.
I think the USA and the rest of the world will be just fine regardless. To date all forms of "alternative energy" has been a miserable failure...but the "experts" promise a breakthrough is "right around the corner"., but why degrade the environment with fake inefficient systems when fossil fuels are the cleanest, most efficient and Earth/human friendly sources readily available?
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Posted on 12/25/16 at 4:10 pm to Cruiserhog
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they dont use averages to do science, just see trends
oh dear! quote:Another whopper. Are you claiming that solar flux = radiation loss capacity so the two "average out"?
the 24hr cycle has absolutely no bearing on the analysis other than nitetime and daytime provide the high and lows at that collection point.
Posted on 12/25/16 at 4:13 pm to bmy
quote:This simply isn't the case. One cannot model something that happens randomly and expect accurate results. Much of or weather happens with NO regularity, no apparent causality.
it boils down to physics.. nothing more. it's just ridiculously complex and we're ~10-15 years off of having the required computing power.
I can create a physically complete model of a roulette wheel. Will it predict the result on any single spin? Nope.
If it was just "physics", I'd have all my employees working on a model of the lottery balls machine. But I know they'll never predict the outcome...
quote:"artificial intelligence" can only mimic actual intelligence. Are you suggesting that an intelligent entity (a being) drives the weather?
i say let artificial intelligence handle it anyways
This post was edited on 12/25/16 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 12/25/16 at 9:08 pm to Taxing Authority
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This simply isn't the case. One cannot model something that happens randomly and expect accurate results. Much of or weather happens with NO regularity, no apparent causality.
not only is that wrong it's absurd
it's not like god is waving a magic wand quote:
I can create a physically complete model of a roulette wheel. Will it predict the result on any single spin? Nope.
if it addressed all possible variables it would be 100% accurate
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"artificial intelligence" can only mimic actual intelligence. Are you suggesting that an intelligent entity (a being) drives the weather?
No. I'm suggesting that an artificially created intelligence will one day be able to accurately predict all weather events that will occur on any given day X days into the future.. in the same way that artificial intelligence can effectively create cures for diseases, diagnose medical conditions, or function as lawyers.
Deep Learning AI/Neural Networks
This post was edited on 12/25/16 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 12/25/16 at 9:17 pm to Dale51
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I think the USA and the rest of the world will be just fine regardless. To date all forms of "alternative energy" has been a miserable failure...but the "experts" promise a breakthrough is "right around the corner"., but why degrade the environment with fake inefficient systems when fossil fuels are the cleanest, most efficient and Earth/human friendly sources readily available?
Nuclear is cleaner and more efficient than fossil fuels for starters. Solar is an incredible technology and has made remarkable strides in the last 5 years. Fusion should obviously be pursued but who knows where that will go. Solar is the future.. may as well buckle up and get used to it. Will be a happy day when the big oil giants fall.
This post was edited on 12/25/16 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 12/25/16 at 9:20 pm to matthew25
Second warmest Christmas on record in Atlanta.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 8:32 am to TigernMS12
Humans have been releasing CO2 into the air since fire was discovered.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:09 am to dmjones
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Second warmest Christmas on record in Atlanta.
So, being second, it's cooling.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 9:12 am to bmy
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Nuclear is cleaner and more efficient than fossil fuels for starters.
Nukes are great, but they don't have the secondary benefits of fossils.
Solar and wind are like some kind of bad joke. Their only practical use is in the homestead/commune setting.
Posted on 12/26/16 at 12:32 pm to bmy
quote:OK. Then why don't you make a model and predict next week's lottery?
not only is that wrong it's absurd
quote:oh look. A claim no one made.
it's not like god is waving a magic wand
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if it addressed all possible variables it would be 100% accurate
nope. quote:Prepare for disappointment.
No. I'm suggesting that an artificially created intelligence will one day be able to accurately predict all weather events that will occur on any given day X days into the future..
Posted on 12/26/16 at 12:34 pm to SmoothOperator96
quote:Ya but it only counts if you use oil or coal.
Humans have been releasing CO2 into the air since fire was discovered.
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