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2017 Press Freedom Index (Reporters Without Borders)

Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:46 am
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:46 am
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Notables:
#1-4 are a Nordic sweep, with Iceland at #10
#6 Costa Rica and #8 Jamaica are best in North America
#24 Namibia and #26 Ghana lead Africa
#43 USA
#44 Comoros - highest Muslim country
#45 Taiwan - highest Asian country
#136 India
#147 Mexico
#148 Russia
#176 China
#180 and last is unsurprisingly Best Korea

Part of the USA entry:
quote:

Journalists continue to be arrested for covering various protests around the country, with several currently facing criminal charges. The Obama administration waged a war on whistleblowers who leaked information about its activities, leading to the prosecution of more leakers than any previous administrations combined. To this day, American journalists are still not protected by a federal “shield law” guaranteeing their right to protect their sources and other confidential work-related information. And over the past few years, there has been an increase in prolonged searches of journalists and their devices at the US border, with some foreign journalists being prevented from any travel to the US after they covered sensitive topics such as Colombia's FARC or Kurdistan.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 9:48 am
Posted by 90proofprofessional
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:50 am to
fake ranking
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:52 am to
Thanks Obama! Thought this was about freedom of the Press, and it just shows what a Police state we were just rescued from...
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:55 am to
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Thanks Obama! Thought this was about freedom of the Press, and it just shows what a Police state we were just rescued from...
Here's another part of the US entry
quote:

US press freedom, enshrined in the First Amendment to the 1787 constitution, has encountered several major obstacles over the past few years, most recently with the election of President Donald Trump. He has declared the press an “enemy of the American people” in a series of verbal attacks toward journalists, while attempting to block White House access to multiple media outlets in retaliation for critical reporting.
This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 9:56 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 9:56 am to
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2017 Press Freedom Index (Reporters Without Borders)
Rosen wiretapped. Sharyl Attkisson hacked. Obama subverting contrarian press. Now the surviving liberal residual, incapable of impartiality, is attacked as the opposition party by Trump.

I'm actually surprised the ranking is that high.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:01 am to
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He has declared the press an “enemy of the American people” in a series of verbal attacks toward journalists, while attempting to block White House access to multiple media outlets in retaliation for critical reporting.




Press freedom does not mean freedom from criticism or freedom to have unfettered access to targets of reporting.

Press freedom just simply means that the government does not throw reporters in jail or be murdreed for their reporting and are allowed to protect their sources in reasonable cases.

That's it and anything else is fair game.
Posted by Wtodd
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:14 am to
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Journalists continue to be arrested for covering various protests around the country

But they're not being arrested for being journalist or doing journalism
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:16 am to
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But they're not being arrested for being journalist or doing journalism
In the sense that those aren't actual laws, no. I'm sure they're arrested for "disturbing the peace" or "resisting arrest" or whatever else you want to airquote. That doesn't mean those charges are legitimate.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:17 am to
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#147 Mexico
#148 Russia


Apparently where we draw the line on "Freedom loving friend, Free-Trade agreement partner" and "Evil dictator oppressing his people and a scourge we have to protect Europe from" is at the #147 1/2 line.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:17 am to
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That doesn't mean those charges are legitimate.




Most times they are not. They're used to bully and intimidate the press to keep them from doing any further reporting.


Land of the free my arse.
Posted by cokebottleag
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:18 am to
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US press freedom, enshrined in the First Amendment to the 1787 constitution, has encountered several major obstacles over the past few years, most recently with the election of President Donald Trump. He has declared the press an “enemy of the American people” in a series of verbal attacks toward journalists, while attempting to block White House access to multiple media outlets in retaliation for critical reporting.


UNPRECEDENTED!
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:18 am to
Fake news.

Just look at how the press treats our government and you can tell we have strong freedom of press here.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:19 am to
They shite on both Trump and Obama so I'm not sure what's funny?
Posted by Wtodd
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:19 am to
I'm not debating the legitimacy of the charges; I'm debating the legitimacy of the article saying they were arrested because they were doing journalist shite.....they were arrested bc they were either assaulting someone or destroying something.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:24 am to
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they were arrested bc they were either assaulting someone or destroying something
You should look into how many of these arrests end in actual convictions
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:26 am to
I admittedly don't know anything about reporters being arrested during protests but I do know that many protests recently have become violent and destructive and that police arrest many people they think are involved. Because of that, many of those arrested don't get convicted. That isn't anti-press, though.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:28 am to
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You should look into how many of these arrests end in actual convictions

Without looking I'll go with 10%
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:33 am to
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I admittedly don't know anything about reporters being arrested during protests



Two prominent ones(Wesley Lowery and Ryan Reilly) were arrested while sitting in a McDonald's during the protests in Ferguson.

The charges were dropped.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:33 am to
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enemy of the American people


Truth.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8005 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:39 am to
I seriously question the methodology of a system that places South Africa above the United States in freedom of the press. If you knew anything about that place, you'd know that's LOLworthy. It makes me think their rankings are garbage.

The U.S. isn't perfect by any means, but there seems to be a fairly high correlation between countries that don't matter and countries that rate highly on that list.

This post was edited on 4/26/17 at 10:40 am
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