1.9M Fewer Americans Working, 2M Foreign Workers Funneled into U.S. Jobs...

The 1.9 million aren’t not working because of the foreigners. The foreigners are here because the 1.9 million are lazy.

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The foreigners are here because the 1.9 million are lazy.

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That is such horseshite. I know you're incredibly ignorant about almost every topic you post on, but that statement is ridiculous.

In the blue collar trades, particularly home construction, which I deal with almost daily, illegals have depressed the wages in almost every facet of work. I can get a crew of mexicans to do roofing, drywall, or framing for half what an American crew will do it for. I don't even know how the mexicans make any money sometimes, but I try not to ever use them because it feels shitty, to me.

On the white collar front, skilled legal immigrants, particularly from India, have severely depressed wages in all technology fields. Companies use Indians damn near like slaves in IT jobs and pay them far below the average salary, but they're happy to take it knowing they'll get their family over here and be legal citizens with full citizenship in 10 years.

So yeah, when an immigrant has either just straight up taken the job you had because they'll do it for half the wage you were making, or wages have been depressed so low you literally cannot feed your family while working every day, laziness doesn't factor into it.

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In the blue collar trades, particularly home construction, which I deal with almost daily, illegals have depressed the wages in almost every facet of work. I can get a crew of mexicans to do roofing, drywall, or framing for half what an American crew will do it for. I don't even know how the mexicans make any money sometimes, but I try not to ever use them because it feels shitty, to me.

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Yep, this is absolutely true. I was talking to a commercial drywall/metal stud contractor the other day. He said he simply couldn't hire any American young kids, and said it's basically impossible. I asked what he was paying, and I was just thinking that would be simply impossible to live off of that in this current economy. Even his experienced journeymen, the best he could pay was less than $30 an hour. I was just thinking that is absolute shite. The illegal Hispanics will come and work these jobs for $15 an hour through 3rd party facilitators, who knows if they are even paying taxes, and then they send all the money home where it's worth more. They also are usually supplied with housing and food cards, and don't have their families with them.

It's a shite system, and the working man has no leverage at all. He can simply be replaced by some foreigner. I get how a cynical libertarian type would smirk at this and say some BS that's "just the free market". It's a completely rigged free market, the free market should be shared amongst country men for their own benefit. It is not just their to cater to wealthy corporations.

I don’t want to sound elitist or anything but a pretty big portion of the country has a sub 80 iq and we took the jobs away that they were able to do, jobs like switchboard operator due to technology or building washing machines due to nafta

You can’t tell those people to learn to code, they lack the mental capacity to do most jobs these days. They can however mug you or steal your car.

The democrats say we have to pay these people off with welfare and food stamps or they will riot but as a based man I say let them riot and we can fix the deficit in a few months

This is why when fdr invented the minimum wage he said it was only for high school kids

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The 1.9 million aren’t not working because of the foreigners. The foreigners are here because the 1.9 million are lazy.

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Keep telling yourself that fool

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You can absolutely feed a family on minimum wage. Won’t be a very good lifestyle. The problem is that it pays more to not do anything at all. People are incentivized to not work instead of to improve their value as a worker.

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Where?

I can remember as early as Middle School taking classes that introduced us to a trade such as welding and construction.
Then in High School those who wished to continue learning a trade could attend trade school classes (1-3pm) as an elective to further gain experience and prepare for when they graduate and enter the workforce.

Now, not so much. With each passing year schools are slowly doing away with trade schools, which is sad imo.

Obama's "spreading the wealth around". Guaranteed that the 'Omnibus Bill' money/subsidies for millions of illegals far surpasses that of illegals work-based earnings. The coming Debt Ceiling fight will be hoot, as the Dems seek to cover their tracks and strong-arm the Right by focusing cuts in spending on American Citizens, as opposed to Illegals.

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You can absolutely feed a family on minimum wage.

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Feed? Sure.

Buy a house or rent one from Blackrock? Not even close.