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CptBengal
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re: 0.4% Growth, Better Than Expected

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i was recently scolded on this board by a mental midget to "embrace the recovery"
would this be the same mental midget who is now pissed because his high deductible plan is going away?



jcole4lsu
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re: 0.4% Growth, Better Than Expected
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would this be the same mental midget who is now pissed because his high deductible plan is going away?

good guess, but i was specifically referring to the michigan grad who has recently become disillusioned with the GOP.
however he may have done it as well.


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Radiojones
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mental midget


I think the correct term is "mental little person".


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EthanL
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You know, I was watching Hannity last night. Don't ask me how of why I got to that channel.

Anyway, he had Frank Luntz on there, and Frank was basically trying to explain to him that the Dems use 'winning rhetoric', and unless the GOP change to this style, whether, like the Dems, they mean it or not, they will suffer.

He gave two examples: one was Nancy Pelosi whining about the GOP, how bad they are, etc. The reactions were negative of course, and according to Luntz, some of the worse points ever from a focus group. Hannity chimed iin to, ripping into her.

Then Luntz played a video of Harry Reid, talking about coming together, ending the bickering, legislating bipartisanly. Hannity was beside himself saying "He's lying, he doesn't mean it!"

But what Luntz was trying to point out, was that this is winning rhetoric. Hannity was desperately trying to get Luntz to agree with him/acknowledge that Reid was a liar. But Luntz said "That's up to the GOP to prove What is important is the style and message. The GOP needs a unity message. They need to stop talking about how America is in the shitter, and rather a unity message or 'come together' message between them and the Dems

I couldn't help but think about that when I read this thread. It's like a continuos bitch fest, not unlike the party leaders, and then there is wonderment as to why the 'clueless liberals' keep stomping a mudhole in y'all every 4 years.

Maybe they aren't as clueless as u think
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deltaland
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Remember when GHW Bush was vilified for the "worst economy in 50 years" after two down quarters and while the economy was recovering at 2.6% ???


I also remember when gas was .83 in MS in 2001.


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Radiojones
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Maybe they aren't as clueless as u think


Don't think for a second that I think they are clueless. I see the Democratic party as a very sly, manipulative group of people that will do or say anything to stay in power.

Don't worry, I think very similarly of the Republicans - they just aren't as good at being manipulative and sly.


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matthew25
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re: 0.4% Growth, Better Than Expected
I thought the 4th Q GDP number was a negative .1

Anybody recall that?


doubleb
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re: 0.4% Growth, Better Than Expected
The numbers were 4Xs better than originally preedicted.

Disability claims are at record levels, food stamps are issued at record levels, and there are more people not working than every before.

Obama is on a hot street, and the numbers are going through the roof.

Stock market records too.

We'll look back in time and remember 2013 as the good ole days.



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doubleb
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re: 0.4% Growth, Better Than Expected
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I thought the 4th Q GDP number was a negative .1 Anybody recall that


That was before Obama's accountants did a little "fine tuning" here and there.


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Champagne
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The USA is getting exactly what it deserves.


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Jake88
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re: 0.4% Growth, Better Than Expected
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The GOP needs a unity message. They need to stop talking about how America is in the shitter, and rather a unity message or 'come together' message between them and the Dems

I couldn't help but think about that when I read this thread. It's like a continuos bitch fest, not unlike the party leaders, and then there is wonderment as to why the 'clueless liberals' keep stomping a mudhole in y'all every 4 years


The dems were bitching incessantly during the Bush years that the country was in the shitter and it began to pay dividends in 2006. So, I'm not sure Luntz is on to anything. What the GOP needs is a "cool" celebrity type. Sadly, the candidate that integrates with the pop culture best is going to be the winner.


ironsides
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re: 0.4% Growth, Better Than Expected
Anybody know what the GDP growth would be if governments portion was the same as bush's outlandish spending? This # blows


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Poodlebrain
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Thanks, Obama!
I expected better than 0.4% economic growth. I don';t know where the media gets its expectations from, but I never heard from the mouth of Obama that our economy would grow so slowly. Why does the media seek comments from economists instead of answers from politicians as to why policies haven't worked?


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Grizzly
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re: 0.4% Growth, Better Than Expected
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Remember when GHW Bush was vilified for the "worst economy in 50 years" after two down quarters and while the economy was recovering at 2.6% ???



Yes I do. but hey times have changed. Our president is busy campaigning and vacationing to be bothered with Joba and the Economy.


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dantes69
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re: 0.4% Growth, Better Than Expected
The worst economic recovery ever under the worst President ever.


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JabarkusRussell
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re: 0.4% Growth, Better Than Expected
That's also including seasonal hires.


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RCDfan1950
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[quote] winning rhetoric[/quote]

Winning...what! Voters, who vote to pay themselves out of a Treasury that is existentially bankrupt. Brilliant policy...ending in a hollow victory, when Bernacke has to step out from behind the curtain and admit that it's all been an illusion.

It's a damn shame, given all the resources and smart folk in this country, that it is going down this way. I hope that the historians get this calamatous 'social justice' crap on the record, so that future folk won't be taken in. This is gonna hurt.

Live and learn. Earth 2013. We'll dig out.



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Reubaltaich
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re: 0.4% Growth, Better Than Expected
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I thought the 4th Q GDP number was a negative .1

Anybody recall that?


So you are saying that this obama economy is doing well?

The US economy should have been in recovery at least 2 years ago. The average US recession lasts 18 months, we are still in a recession going into the fifth year of this obama presidency.

The US economy should be creating 250K jobs a month at minimum. The job market is not even keeping up with population growth

GDP should be 3% minimum.

The US economy should be roaring. AmIrite?


NHTIGER
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re: 0.4% Growth, Better Than Expected
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I thought the 4th Q GDP number was a negative .


The quarterly GDP number is subject to two monthly revisions in the two months following the original release number, just as the monthly jobs report is (unemployment number, however, is not subject to such revisions). Actually, revisions in quarterly GDP are often more, in either direction, than the 0.3% change we saw this month for 4th quarter GDP.


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matthew25
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I was not making a comment, I was stating my recollection that the 4th Q was negative; thus, 2 negative Q's would put us back into recession.

This Q started badly when it was announced: Christmas sales were not up to par; the 2% SSI holiday was not renewed, higher tax of the top 1%; and the fiscal cliff held up tax rebates, thus less money on the skreets.

I never saw a revision that put us in positive territory.


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