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re: ???? about climate change

Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:02 pm to
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So you believe personal single day weather observations are a good way to analzye and discuss the long term climate patterns?


A Hurricane is a single day weather observation. Yet, the idiots who believe in global warming hold it up as proof.
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:12 pm to
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Not a "big word" concept at all. It's a sophomore level math concept.


Yeah, kind of like when you tried it with "state variable" in the direction of a software engineer. LOL...fricking state variable
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:17 pm to
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Yeah, kind of like when you tried it with "state variable" in the direction of a software engineer. LOL...fricking state variable
Care to explain what I was wrong about?
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:19 pm to
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Check yourself chicken little, 75 yrs is such a short window there's no way it could prove any man made contribution to global warming. I heard years ago when this Global Warming thing really took off (right after we were told we're entering an Ice Age in the early 70's) a scientist on a talk radio show say that a single forest fire prior to mans ability to put them out would burn for weeks if not months and the CO2 from those fires were many times greater than all the fossil fuels burnt in any given year and this was happening around the globe. Now add in volcanic activity which also has varying periods of increased activity around the globe along with solar activity which is probably has the most influential effect on climate and man ends up being way down on the causes of any climate change. Does man contribute? sure but not to the extent that we're being led to believe.


And that is a productive comment. Not to mention whether CO2 is even the cause of temperature increase as opposed to the other way around - atmospheric CO2 levels being an effect of temperature increase via ocean outgassing of dissolved CO2 in warmer periods.

Was just trying to intimate that what the weather is like outside any individuals door today has no real value to the complex topic of climate patterns.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:20 pm to
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NOFOX


WHat's the SN mean?
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:25 pm to
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NOFOX


NO = New Orleans



Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:26 pm to
Climate=\=weather to be fair
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260483 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:30 pm to
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NOFOX


NO = New Orleans


Got it. Just curious, I was wondering if it was one hell of an acronym.
Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:42 pm to
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you take that statement and get this....
quote:
So you believe personal single day weather observations are a good way to analzye and discuss the long term climate patterns?


OP:
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???? about climate change

quote:

It is suppose to be in the 20's tomorrow night in NELA in nov.

I did not see any comment from TA discussing how single day weather observations are a terrible way to measure and analyze dynamic systems.

quote:

What year undergrad are you, and what school....this is fricking pathetic.


Zing...
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:50 pm to
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I did not see any comment from TA discussing how single day weather observations are a terrible way to measure and analyze dynamic systems.


Do you know what an integral is?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57234 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 2:07 pm to
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I did not see any comment from TA discussing how single day weather observations are a terrible way to measure and analyze dynamic systems.
Sorry. Didn't think I needed to explicitly state that.

I do NOT honestly believe that these threads are started as a presentation of scientific evidence.

To me they are responses to decades of being beat over the head with every weather event being described as "this is what global warming looks like" every time it's not 72°F and Sunny.

They are simply demonstrating the silliness exhibited by the "other" side. You tried to equate them, but they are not equal. One is at least partially in jest, the other is meant to scare people into willingly giving up their tax dollars.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 2:20 pm to
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Sorry. Didn't think I needed to explicitly state that.


He quoted your integration comment, then made that assanine post about weather.

My guess he didnt even understand what he wrote. he saw "weather" and you equating it someway to "climate" and the triggers went off and the programming from the MSM did its job.

Go reread the post, it's actually astounding how well the programming worked in eliciting his response.

It's really sad tbh.
Posted by Cruiserhog
Little Rock
Member since Apr 2008
10460 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 2:23 pm to
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I wonder what the correct temperature is supposed to be. Surely, the idiot liberals can tell us. If not, then their entire argument is garbage.



since different species require different optimal temperatures to live and thrive, and I would assume you are intelligent enough to realize this...that would make your statement frickING STUPID
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57234 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 2:39 pm to
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He quoted your integration comment, then made that assanine post about weather.
Ya. I get it. And it does show a misunderstanding of some pretty basic issues with "climate change".

But the fault doesn't lie so much with the poster. He doesn't want to be seen as "dumb" so he repeats the made-for-TV version of climate modeling of trending an average of a cyclic signal. That atmosphere was created for him, not by him. It's a classic Bernays technique.

The people we should be taking to task and treating coarsely are the ones that create this atmosphere because "the little people" are "too dumb to understand the real way things work."

It's VERY analogous to Gruber's admission. "The people" just have to be lied to, because they are are too dumb to understand, and they won't comply if they are told the whole truth.

Climate science has done themselves no favors. Instead of educating people, and being open about what they don't know, they have continued to present dumbed-downed, oversimplified-to-the-point-of-dishonesty explanations with unyielding zeal.

Hopefully, he will think about whether or not it's wise to continually ignore differential-sized data in the context of a continuous function by averaging out the rate of change.

If not, yelling at him probably won't help.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 3:03 pm
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 3:39 pm to
Dont worry about it. CptBengal and Taxing Authority are like the Dumb and Dumber of climate change threads. Watch out or they'll throw some big words at you that they don't understand in hopes that you dont understand them either.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 3:41 pm to
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CptBengal and Taxing Authority are like the Dumb and Dumber of climate change threads. Watch out or they'll throw some big words at you that they don't understand in hopes that you dont understand them either




whatever helps you sleep at night.

ETA: If you think "integral" is a big word, or dont know what a state variable is....
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 3:41 pm to
You've posted nothing that explains why you think they're wrong.


Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 3:46 pm to
CptBengal and Taxing Authority are to Climate Change threads as NC Tigah is to Ebola threadz.

Better?
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7771 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 3:48 pm to
Vols&Shaft is to heterosexuality as UT is to winning football games.

Didn't want you to feel left out.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112469 posts
Posted on 11/12/14 at 3:56 pm to
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So you believe personal single day weather observations are a good way to analzye and discuss the long term climate patterns? A Hurricane is a single day weather observation. Yet, the idiots who believe in global warming hold it up as proof.


So, you're not gonna respond to my refutation? Because you can't. How sad.
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